I heard someone here mention an agency to report internet fraud. This has nothing to do with 4x4 ... actually a company I ordered a cat collar from!! /forums/images/icons/blush.gif They took my card number and used it on Paypal. Paypal deals are final, Paypal will not refund money even in the case of fraud or theft (Pretty smart guys ... Paypal and the crooks!). I don't expect to get my money back nor do I care ($12), but I feel I need to report them as a means of helping any agency close them down. Any ideas where to go /forums/images/icons/confused.gif Thanks, Eric M.