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which head?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 86chevybanshee, May 28, 2005.

  1. 86chevybanshee

    86chevybanshee 1/2 ton status

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    i have 2 sets of sbc heads to pick from.

    casting numbers are
    3970126 - 67-71 327/350

    333882 - 74-80 350/400 76cc chambers

    got these from mortec.com

    now these head are going on a stock bore 350, mild cam, headers, edlebrock intake, and its going to be tbi.

    which heads should i go with?
     
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    if it were me i'd go with the #3970126 and have stainless malley valves screw in studs and guide plates. not sure what size valves are in that casting. see if you can get 2.02 intake valves and 1.60 exhaust. also have the machine shop pocket port the heads. it will open up the area underneath the valves to increase the air flow on both the intake and exhaust. just my .02


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    ???????

    I'm no expert on chevy heads_(I never built a "race" motor or got into valve size increases--I just put rebuilt stock or good used heads on quite a few motors--),but I do know most of the pre 70 ones with the spark plugs that were gasketed rather than the tapered seat "peanut"plug ones were usually smaller chamber,which=higher compression ratio,and are heavier castings than the ones in the 70's and up..

    Those(early) heads might raise the compression to 10.5 or higher-(varies with piston type,etc)-great for more power and tourque,they ruled the streets back in their day!-you could get them with screw in studs and guide plates..but on a motor run on todays "low" octane fuel,most motors knock and ping to death on 93 octane pump gas,and unless you run race fuel with the gas,it wont like it..detune it enough not to ping so it will live,and it wont go much better than any smogger 350 chevy in most trucks run..the older heads might lack the "accessory" holes in the ends for power steering brackets,altenator,etc..best to look FIRST BEFORE the heads go on!(dont ask me how I know! :whistle: )....

    I'd say unless you plan on running high octane fuel or a mix of race fuel and gas,then the heads giving the higher compression will give the most power and torque,but will be costly to run..might be better to go with heads that will retain a nearly stock compression ratio,and "tune" them with the camshaft to the motor.I think the CAM does more to affect performance than any changes in valve sizes in most cases..big valves means slower airflow velocity thru the heads--great volume for high revs,but might make a "bogg" at low rpm acceleration..a small valve and intake ports keep things moving quickly,and it makes for smoother low speed running and more low end tourque--what you want in a truck,especially if you want to crawl off road..you need good tourque just above idle and good throttle response to maintain control in off road manuvers..

    ..I've had some pretty impressive rides in stock corvettes with 327/375 hp motors in them--that "Duntov" camshaft they had in them REALLY woke up a pretty much stock chevy small block with the high compression ratios they could use back in the 60's when we had 100 octane leaded gasoline available for less than 50 cents a gallon!....but that same motor today in my friends vette needs 93 octane plus race fuel or octane booster to get anywhere near the same performance on todays gas..and though its in perfect condition still,according to him"it doesn't run like it used too"--he blames the fuel,and I agree--its all formulated for EFI cars now,us dinosours with carbs still are probably blaming the carbs for the lousy mileage and performance--when its the FUEL that is the problem!.. :blush:

    So unless they bring back 100 octane fuel soon(doubtful)--I'd stay with heads like the motor came with,maybe the ones with larger valves if you want it to revv hi( not what you want in a truck,especially a 4x4 )---but I've found the "small" valve heads give better low end tourque than any other...
    One of the strongest 350's I had was one with the "small" valves,and a 2 bbl. carb and intake off an old 283!-
    -I could leave my truck in 3rd until it was going 10mph then step on the gas and GO,no jerking or hesitating--I swappen in a 4 bbl carter AFB and aluminum intake,and that killed all the low end..driving the truck after the swap was much more of a chore,and a lot jerkier,and trickier not to stall it when letting out the clutch...I never realized the "speed" of the air/fuel mix going thru the heads and motor could affect the "way" an engine pulls under a load like it does..I should have left the 283 - 2 bbl setup on it--it was better!... :screwy: :surepal: I'd say the newer heads might be the best comprimise--or wichever ones aren't cracked! :crazy:
     
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    well the reason im asking this is i the newer heads are the original heads to my engine and i took them off to clean them up, and put new valve seals and what not in them and while i was at work one fell off my tool box (probly 3-3 1/2 feet (mac tech1000)) so before i send them out to get checked out i wanted to see if one was better to use than the other
     

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