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Which is it, Dana 44 or GM 10 Bolt?

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by fbronson, May 21, 2004.

  1. fbronson

    fbronson 1/2 ton status

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    A little while ago, I bought a pair of axles. The guy advertised them as a 14bff rear and a dana 44 front 3/4 ton axles. I got them in the mail, and they sat in the garage for a little while. When I unwrapped them to start the rebuild, I noticed that the front axle looks remarkably like the current 10 bolt on the front of my truck right now. It has 8 lug hubs, and the tie rod looks a little different than what I've got. The saddest part of the whole deal is that the passenger side steering knuckle is not a flat top, which means that I'll have to get a different steering knuckle if I want to do the cross-over steering. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif The diff housing has those same little bumps on the lower flange as my 10 bolt, so I am a little unsure. So what is it?
     
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    Muddytazz 1 ton status

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    <font color="black"> Dana 44 </font>
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    <font color="black"> 10 bolt </font>
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    MTBLAZER89 3/4 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    sounds like a 10b with those two little ears. Same axle as a D44 anyway. Unless these were pre 76-77 axles the dana 44 wouldnt have had flat tops anyway. Did ya make sure that the gearing mtches in them? /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
     
  4. fbronson

    fbronson 1/2 ton status

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    So post 76-77 the dana 44's didn't have a flat top kunckle? That was the most important thing to me, actually. I knew that the diameter of the axle shaft was the same in both the 10b and the d44. Although, I think the d44 has a slightly thicker axle tube wall, doesn't it? Yeah, the gears are 4.10's in both. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif So that is good anyhow.
     
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    So post 76-77 the dana 44's didn't have a flat top kunckle?

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    77 and earlier had the flat tops, 78 and newer 44's didn't.
     
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    I knew that the diameter of the axle shaft was the same in both the 10b and the d44. Although, I think the d44 has a slightly thicker axle tube wall, doesn't it? Yeah, the gears are 4.10's in both. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif So that is good anyhow.

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    D44's housings are made of nodular iron and 10B housings are made of grey iron. The D44 housing is slightly stronger but only really matters if you are getting a lot of air. I wouldn't be mad, they are basically the same thing. Not only that but now you don't have to buy different brake lines and if you ever find a D60 it will swap right in because it shares the same lines as a 10B. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
     
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    <font color="black"> Dana 44 </font>
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    <font color="black"> 10 bolt </font>
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    By the way the 10 bolts in here is a rear, the front is a little different in shape, looks more like a 12 bolt shape but has the fill hole in the cover.
    I don't have a pic of one now but I have a few sitting in my driveway.
     
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    Yeah, I am pretty sure that what I have is a 10 bolt. The interesting thing is that someone did an 8-lug conversion on it, and in doing so they must have put brake calipers from a Dana 44 on it, because I did have to swap the brake lines. Thanks for the info on the types of iron used. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif I am not really planning on "getting air" in this truck, so I guess I should be o.k. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    I had an '82 Suburban K20 (years past) that had an 8 lug 10 bolt stock, I thought hmmmm now that is strange but the old guy I got it from I know had never touched it. So from my experience they are out there.
     
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    Many rigs had factory 8 lug 10 bolt fronts. I ran one for years in my rig until I swapped in the Dana 60.
     
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    All GM K series trucks started getting 10B fronts instead of D44's under the 3/4tons in 79', 8 lug of course. IIRC. My 8 lug 10B came from a 79' 3/4 burb.
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    Nice pic! Have you ever had any problems running 35's on a 10bolt? So did those 8-lug 10bolts come stock with 4.10's? I know that the 14bolts often came stock with the 4.10's in the 1 ton trucks.
     
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    Pretty normal for 4.10's with 8 lug no matter what the front end is. Mine was 4.10 and just about every 8 lug front end I have ran across has been 4.10. I ran 35" Gumbo mudders (cheap available tire at the time) with no problems but it was mainly a tow rig and only saw offroad once.
     
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    Nice pic! Have you ever had any problems running 35's on a 10bolt? So did those 8-lug 10bolts come stock with 4.10's? I know that the 14bolts often came stock with the 4.10's in the 1 ton trucks.

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    To this day most 3/4-1ton trucks roll off the line with 4.10's. 4.10's have been standard since the 60's or 70's with 3.73 and 4.56 being options.

    I have never broken anything on my front 10B. I was lucky and and picked my current front axle up because it looked like it had been in 4wd about twice! It was probably a grocery getter burb(donor veh.) it was totally cherry and that is probably why I have never broken anything. As you can see I am running 35x16 boggers and they are probably the nastiest 35 out there as far as breakage. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif I used to wheel a lot in the mud and have pulled on asphalt a few times burning rubber without breakage. Maybe I'm lucky. /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
     
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    There are alot of 3.42s as well. Esp in the '88-98 3/4 tons. At least thats whats in the junkyards around here.
     
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    All GM K series trucks started getting 10B fronts instead of D44's under the 3/4tons in 79', 8 lug of course. IIRC. My 8 lug 10B came from a 79' 3/4 burb.

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    Kind of the Grayist of Gray Areas there. I bought a 77 burb with and 8 lug 10 bolt. D44 and 10 fronts and 10 and 12 bolt rears were both used it seams from 77 unitl they ran out of 44's and 12 bolt.
     
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    My 90 V2500 /forums/images/graemlins/burb.gif came stock with 3.42's 10b front &amp; sf14 rear.
     
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    3.42's and even a 3.20 something were also options but are rare for the most part. /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
     
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    They say 2.73s were rare in K5s too. Yet I managed to buy one of them as well. I have NO luck /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
     
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    They say 2.73s were rare in K5s too. Yet I managed to buy one of them as well. I have NO luck /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif


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    Yeah, it's crazy what they put in the 1/2 tons, 3.08's and 2.73's are a joke...
     

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