I've been eyeing new(er) trucks lately and am thinking of selling my DD and taking out a loan to purchase a gas tow rig. I LOVE the power of our diesel but finding diesel can suck when you're out in the boonies and diesel rigs hold their value so well that they're out of my price range. So...who tows loads around 8000 pounds with a gas motor? I know the 5.7 in my DD wouldn't do it, so I'm a little leery of the GM 6.0. Yeah, I know I'm comparing apples to oranges. The GM 5.3 is out, we had one, it struggled with two four wheelers on the freeway. The 6.0 though...the numbers are there but I'm afraid it'd be in second gear on every hill on the highway. Pulled a horse trailer with one once that weighed about 5k and it seemed to downshift way too often. Another option would be to find an old body style GM (get more truck for the $$$) with a 454. I've never had any experience or know anyone who has experience with GM's 8.1. The numbers are there but that doesn't translate into real world feel. Ford's 5.4 is out. It's the 1/2 ton V8, 'nuff said The Ford 6.8 V10 that I drove hauled ass and the gas mileage wasn't too terrible according to it's owner. He griped a little about problems and maintenance but I couldn't get anything out of him. I don't even have a clue as to what is in Dodges for gas motors. Most of the people I've talked to buy a Cummins that comes with a Dodge around it so I can find little to no feedback on their gas motors. As you can tell, gas mileage is not a primary concern for me. My current vehicle gets 12 mpg on a good day, is a short wheelbase, and doesn't tow worth a damn, so pretty much anything would be better than my current setup. As far as buying a little bit older rig, this truck will probably serve as my DD as well until an economy car neccessitates itself, so I'd like a newer rig that'll last me a while. I know I won't be able to work on it but hell, once you get into Vortec motors I'm pretty well out of the game anyways. Any suggestions, experiences, and input is more than welcome.