Sorry I'm kinda new...Its the old c-channel frames. ( /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif toyota /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif ) I just welded ratpack7's frame that was broke right in half at the steering box. We now are wanting to get a plate and weld it into the frame for more sapport. I now have a 70 k-5 that I will do the same to BEFORE it breaks. Anyone have company names or writeups on this? I know of ORD but it looks a little thin on the weld in kit. The heavy gusset looks nice but does that really solve the problems?