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Who uses email at work?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by newyorkin, Dec 6, 2003.

  1. newyorkin

    newyorkin 1 ton status

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    Just wondering how you feel about your employer having full access to your emailbox any time they want.

    I mean like any one of six managers responsible for a 300 person force having complete access to any of those 300's mailbox at any time for any reason without the mailbox owner knowing. A manager can pop in, read all a users mail, and pop out without the user ever having to know. And remember, this is just thier work email address, not a workers home or personal email account.

    Do you think a manager should have this access, or that the employee should expect the right of privacy on thier work email account?

    Or don't care?
     
  2. 2Dogs

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    I take it as a given these days. Don't like it but I treat every thing I do these with the thought in mind that someone is listening or saving content.

    One of my building admins has a shirt that says "I read your email" - he thinks it's funny but people react poorly to it /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  3. sled_dog

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    www.thinkgeek.com lots of those kinds of shirts /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. My buddy has the one that says "I don't work here" which was funny until he is now 19 and a complete bum who has never had a job yet in his life, I'm cutting ties with the loser. I'd have to agree, if I worked in an office I would watch everything I did with the idea someone is watching. I know my mom's place of business has had some stuff happen lately where they want to watch their emails for people sending information out. The press has been riding them cause some disgruntled employees are claiming lots of crap against the company which is stupid cause the worst stuff was the former boss who was fired for it.
     
  4. Skigirl

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    Well, the employer is paying for the email account / internet service, and it's a business, not home, so I don't know how an employee who's being paid to work and do so in the employer's best interest should have any expectancy of privacy.
     
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    I'm a big privacy advocate, but oddly enough, I don't really see anything wrong with an employer being allowed to do such things. I'd be more comfortable if there was notice given after said inspection occurs, but I feel it's within an employers rights to do these things.

    I think a person shouldn't have any expectations of privacy UNLESS the boss tells them to do thier banking online from the office instead of leaving the office to do it. If the boss wants an employee to conduct personal tasks over company resources to keep the employee at maximum efficiency and productivity in the office, I think there should be greater restrictions on the monitoring.

    I dunno, though. It's starkly apparent to me, but grey area to some, that's why I'm wondering what you guys think.
     
  6. stallion85

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    I feel if you have a problem with them looking at your e mails just use work e mail for work related subjects. Use your home email for more private stuff that you don't want others to look at. That's MO /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
  7. Goober

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    Since the employer owns the equipment (servers, and network) then I would say that they have the right to monitor anything that is done with their property by people being paid to perform a function for that business.

    In reality, before any judge will hear a case or admit evidence involving email (or Instant Messaging programs like AOL IM, Sametime, MSN Messenger, etc.) the owners of the equipment must produce their "terms of use" documentation for their systems. If a company cannot provide proof that the employee was aware that, among other things, all communications may be monitored then the employee can usually just claim stupidity and usually the evidence will be tossed.


    Personally, I'm a big fan of encryption. It's hard for someone to claim you wrote anything wrong if all they can read is: HGJHG^&$F&%RV&PHFF&UKJRESL:K:PIH. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    Yea Ratch, I'm big on personal privacy too, but this has never been an area where I thought an employee ever had any right to privacy. The exception would be of course as you said, if the boss expected or asked that an employee to conduct personal business at the work place.

    Not to start a flame war, (and this is a little OT re: privacy but not re: employee behavior at work), but I also think it's improper for employees to surf the net at work. It would piss me off as an employer to have to pay some guy to play online when he should be working. *ducks under table and dons heavy armor*
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    It would piss me off as an employer to have to pay some guy to play online when he should be working.

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    Sounds reasonable to me. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif


    Many employers will allow "reasonable" access to the internet for employees.

    I tend to view 'surfin the net at work' similarly to taking a smoke break. Once in awhile isn't a problem but when most of the day is wasted then it's time to take action.


    *ducks under table with you and dons heavy armor* /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    No big deal to me if they look at my work E-mail. I know they do. They admit it. So what. Its their account and computer/server. Shoot they know I am all over this site sometimes when at work. But hey I can multi task.I Dont try to hide it. The CK5 hat and Shirt are a dead givaway /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
    I try do work at work and leave home at home.( Or at least on Hardcore 4x4.com /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif)

    Sometimes it aint so bad having somone looking at work E-mail
    Our local School District superentendant (who was a total ass) got caught sending a bunch of porn to one of his associates(another jerk)Through school dist. email. People around town got pretty mad about that when it was made public.Forced them both to resign and Sent them both down the road kicking horse turds.
    School dist runs a lot better now. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    *ducks under table with you and dons heavy armor*

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    Hmmmm, could get crowded under here pretty quick Goober /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    I've been on both sides of the issue. Employer and Employee.

    I see it no differently than taking/making a personal phone call at work. The same issues apply to time spent on the phone/email, hardware/software owned by the company, etc.

    My take on the whole thing, whether employer or employee, is that if you send/receive a personal call/email occasionally at work, no biggie. If you spend all day at work on the phone/email, it's a problem.

    I've also always had jobs where I was expected to work late hours and weekends to get things done, so I expected my employer to let me do personal things at work in return. If my employer expects to intrude on my personal life, then he/she should expect my personal life to intrude on my work occasionally.

    Still, as others have said, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law, at the water cooler, or otherwise. Therefore I never put anything in a work email that I wouldn't want spread throughout the company. I use a web-based email account to check my personal email at work.

    It's a complicated issue. I've had the power to read my employees' emails for many years, and the only time I did it was when I had numerous complaints that an employee was receiving excessive amounts of porn and it was offending a coworker who sat near him.

    Paul 'X' [​IMG]
     

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