I have come up with a design that I like and should have some hoops built by the following weekend. I figure the price will be between $40-60 and they will be a totally bolt up no welding required setup. I will post pics when I get one made. Thanks, Pete. ***UPDATE*** AS OF RIGHT NOW I HAVE COME INTO A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH THE SIZE OF THE HOOP AND FIREWALL CLEARANCE WITH TRUCKS WITHOUT A BODY LIFT. I MAY HAVE TO GO WITH A SMALLER DIAMETER TUBE AND SMALL RADIUS. I WILL KEEP EVERYONE POSTED ON THE HOOPS AND OTHER THINGS I AM DESIGNING. THANKS FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME. PETE. 7/11/02 I have been real busy with my truck, work, and working for my cousin too. I have some issues to workout with the design; the issue is with trucks with only a 4" lift, if the truck has a 6" lift or 4" & 2" body then the hoops will fit perfectly and are stout as HELL. Also, I need to find time to pickup the necessary tubing I need; maybe next week sometime when I get my other truck on the road, pretty hard to haul tubing on a VW Jetta. If I get a chance I will post a pic of the basic design and maybe the CAD drawing as well. Don't worry I will make them ASAP. Thanks for your patience, Pete.