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Who's running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by COCHEV, Sep 20, 2003.

  1. COCHEV

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    Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    lets see your e brake set up. pics would be great. i'm going to be swaping in a rear dana 60 and the e-brake cables are totaly different then the ones on my 86 truck. so i figured if i was going to have to fab up an e brake system, i might as well go disc /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    I'll be running High Angle Driveline's 205 E-brake when I'm done with mine. That will be the easiest and best solution for me.
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    yeah, i might have to think about that. i have a 208 though. i think they make one for a 241 also with the SYE, and i'd rather have the lower low range.
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    If you have a 6.55:1 first gear, how the hell are you ever going to tell if your low range is 2:1 or 2.72:1?
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    LOL! good point. i wonder which is more readily available in the salvage yard- a 32 spline 205 with 465 adaptor or a mechanical speedo 241 that should bolt right up to my current adapteor? anyone know?
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    both are fairly rare, but you'll have better luck finding the 241.
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    I'm in the process of finishing up my 14b FF with the disc brake conversion in my 85 K5. I'm using '77 Cadillac calipers, so when I was pulling my 10b, I pulled the drums off to gain access to the e-brake lever, disconnected the cable and pulled it through the backing plate. My point being.... I'm basically going to use my existing e-brake cables for my new rear brakes. The only thing I need to do is fabricate a mounting bracket for the cables which I'll attach to the caliper brackets.

    I should be welding the e-brake brackets in the next couple days, so I'll post some pics.
     
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    cool, i'd like to see pics when you are done. my rig has the ebrake system that is all on the drivers side and the passenger side drum has the super long cable that reaches over to the drivers side bracket. i think weather i keep the 60 drums or go disc, i will have to put the older style set up on with the even cables and the big hoop cable that loops to both sides. sounds like a PIA to me /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

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    If you have a 6.55:1 first gear, how the hell are you ever going to tell if your low range is 2:1 or 2.72:1?

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    when you're in low range, granny gear is almost a joke except in very few situations. What do you think people only wheel in granny gear? What about the rest of the gears which are all of normal ratio's?

    2:1 vs 2.72:1 is like 3 times more prominent than going from 3.73's to 4.10's in the axles, and its even considerably more prominent than going from 3.73 to 4.56!

    so would you say "how are you going to tell if you have 3.08's or 4.10's if you're in low range anyway?" no.

    thats my two cents worth. Then again I think 2:1 low range is fine to begin with. your rationale is just ass backwards sometimes, IMHO. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    my last 2 rigs both had th350s. one had a 203 and one had a 208. with the auto i could tell the difference for sure. with my current rig i have the 4sp and 3.08s and 33s. i've only wheeled a little in it but in low range, 1st gear was insainly looooow. i think with that grannie gear you can get away with a little less low range.

    sort of getting back on topic here /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif i still think i would lean towards a 241 if i could get one. i like being able to shift in to 4 hi on the fly, its is light, it will bolt right to my current adaptor, i can get a SYE and a t case e brake.
     
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    i like being able to shift in to 4 hi on the fly

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    The 241 you want is no different than any other manually selectable t-case. The only way it can be shifted into 4-HI on the fly is if the front hubs are engaged. It's the same for 208's and 205's, and I'm pretty sure 203's.

    The only way to get Shift on the Fly in the 241 without some sort of hub engaged is if you have a 88 and up IFS truck with the vacuum disconnect front diff.
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    Mike Reeh,

    You have no idea what compression braking is anyway, since you've never experienced it. When you do, let me know.
     
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    with the hubs in and in 2 hi, i'm pretty sure you have to stop to put it 4 hi with a 205. all the chain drive cases you can shift back and forth between 2 hi and 4 hi once the hubs are in.

    i could be wrong though /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    you may be right. to me, in theory, if the front output is turning at the same speed as the rear, then it shouldn't be a problem. i could be wrong as well though.

    i guess i need to actually drive on a 205 before i talk about it.
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    I always shift my 205 from 2HI to 4HI while moving (on the fly)

    Anyways, I do have a 4 speed and rear disc's. No E-brake though.

    rene
     
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    I always shift my 205 from 2HI to 4HI while moving (on the fly)



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    see, i stand corrected. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    rene, is it a pain not having an e brake? i would think on the trail it might not be good having to restart on a hill or something. any feedback?

    what are you planning on doing for an e brake?
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    That's what granny gear is for. I don't have an e brake either. No need for it.
     
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    I just leave it in gear. The only place it can be a pain is on the trail..but the 6.2 flashes up so easily when warm it's pretty well a non-issue. In first gear and low range it'll start in gear in the steepest terrain...

    It is not legal though, so eventually I will break down and get the caddy calipers and do it up right.

    For daily driving it isn't a big deal at all. Previous to the rear disc's I rarely if ever had an E-brake that would hold the truck anyways.

    Rene
     
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    Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

    i have four wheel disk and 205.no ebrake cable yet but do have cadi calipers.my 205 i can be going over 5 or 10 mph and shift into 4 high.the gears dont catch right any faster than that.
     
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    I don't really miss my E brake. I just leave it in gear. I don't trust an E brake anyway.
     

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