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why I hate/distrust google and myspace. (time for a rant)

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by hack500, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. hack500

    hack500 1/2 ton status

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    seems like everything related to the 'net nowadays is subjected to a data-mining vacuum.
    consider banking and financial companies they may or may not trade/sell data but regardless they still collect it. you do online banking there's your name and IP and all this other info which when combined with cell phone records and an IP address. whomever is searching can find out who you talk to what you like to read what you dislike and if you have a blog or a myspace account that can be all added together. There are medical records which are used by insurance companies to pay out claims. add that info, too. no matter
    how confidential this info is supposed to be it's still for sale/trade to those that have the power (gov't) or money (other corporations).

    now there have been numerous gov't projects to do all this datamining most notable the Darpa's Total Information Awarness but that has been shut-down after a lot of noise was made about it. but the work has not stopped they just changed names and agencies. I'm not paranoid I'm just realistic.

    As a side note, In-Q-Tel which is run by the CIA is a venture capital firm which seeds money to all these tech start-ups usually with the requirement that the In-Q-tell has access to all the new technology these companies are creating or have created.

    "Google keeps log files that record search terms used, Web sites visited and the Internet Protocol address and browser type of the computer for every single search conducted through its Web site. It also sets cookies that can be used to correlate repeat visits to the company's growing network of Web sites"

    "Google has a massive database that reaches into the most intimate details of your life," he said. "What you are searching for, what you are reading, what you are worried about, what you enjoy. People should be able to use modern tools like search engines without the fear of Big Brother looking over their shoulder."

    Cnet - news.com
     
  2. muddysub

    muddysub 1 ton suburban status Staff Member Moderator GMOTM Winner

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    ummmm... ok

    keep resisting, fight stick it to the man... ok im done.
     
  3. mudhog

    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    kinda interesting i just read this on how big brother IS looking over our shoulder but google wont help them

    SAN FRANCISCO - Google Inc. is rebuffing the Bush administration’s demand for a peek at what millions of people have been looking up on the Internet’s leading search engine — a request that underscores the potential for online databases to become tools for government surveillance.
    Mountain View-based Google has refused to comply with a White House subpoena first issued last summer, prompting U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales this week to ask a federal judge in San Jose for an order to hand over the requested records.
    The government wants a list all requests entered into Google’s search engine during an unspecified single week — a breakdown that could conceivably span tens of millions of queries. In addition, it seeks 1 million randomly selected Web addresses from various Google databases.
    In court papers that the San Jose Mercury News reported on after seeing them Wednesday, the Bush administration depicts the information as vital in its effort to restore online child protection laws that have been struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court.
    Yahoo Inc., which runs the Internet’s second-most used search engine behind Google, confirmed Thursday that it had complied with a similar government subpoena.
    Although the government says it isn’t seeking any data that ties personal information to search requests, the subpoena still raises serious privacy concerns, experts said. Those worries have been magnified by recent revelations that the White House authorized eavesdropping on civilian communications after the Sept. 11 attacks without obtaining court approval.
    “Search engines now play such an important part in our daily lives that many people probably contact Google more often than they do their own mother,” said Thomas Burke, a San Francisco attorney who has handled several prominent cases involving privacy issues.
    “Just as most people would be upset if the government wanted to know how much you called your mother and what you talked about, they should be upset about this, too.”
    The content of search request sometimes contain information about the person making the query.
    For instance, it’s not unusual for search requests to include names, medical profiles or Social Security information, said Pam Dixon, executive director for the World Privacy Forum.
    “This is exactly the kind of thing we have been worrying about with search engines for some time,” Dixon said. “Google should be commended for fighting this.”
    Other search engines complied
    Every other search engine served similar subpoenas by the Bush administration has complied so far, according to court documents. The cooperating search engines weren’t identified.
    Sunnyvale, Calif.-based Yahoo stressed that it didn’t reveal any personal information. “We are rigorous defenders of our users’ privacy,” Yahoo spokeswoman Mary Osako said Thursday. “In our opinion, this is not a privacy issue.”
    Microsoft Corp.'s MSN, the No. 3 search engine, declined to say whether it even received a similar subpoena. “MSN works closely with law enforcement officials worldwide to assist them when requested,” the company said in a statement.
    (MSNBC.com content is distributed by MSN. MSNBC.com itself is a Microsoft - NBC joint venture.)
    As the Internet’s dominant search engine, Google has built up a valuable storehouse of information that “makes it a very attractive target for law enforcement,” said Chris Hoofnagle, senior counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center.
    The Department of Justice argues that Google’s cooperation is essential in its effort to simulate how people navigate the Web.
    In a separate case in Pennsylvania, the Bush administration is trying to prove that Internet filters don’t do an adequate job of preventing children from accessing online pornography and other objectionable destinations.
    Obtaining the subpoenaed information from Google “would assist the government in its efforts to understand the behavior of current Web users, (and) to estimate how often Web users encounter harmful-to-minors material in the course of their searches,” the Justice Department wrote in a brief filed Wednesday
    Google — whose motto when it went public in 2004 was “do no evil” — contends that submitting to the subpoena would represent a betrayal to its users, even if all personal information is stripped from the search terms sought by the government.
    “Google’s acceding to the request would suggest that it is willing to reveal information about those who use its services. This is not a perception that Google can accept,” company attorney Ashok Ramani wrote in a letter included in the government’s filing.
    Complying with the subpoena also would threaten to expose some of Google’s “crown-jewel trade secrets,” Ramani wrote. Google is particularly concerned that the information could be used to deduce the size of its index and how many computers it uses to crunch the requests.
    “This information would be highly valuable to competitors or miscreants seeking to harm Google’s business,” Ramani wrote.
    Dixon is hoping Google’s battle with the government reminds people to be careful how they interact with search engines.
    “When you are looking at that blank search box, you should remember that what you fill can come back to haunt you unless you take precautions,” she said.
     
  4. TSGB

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    I hit Google probably aboot a dozen times a day.
     
  5. diesel4me

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    Do a lot of searches...

    I do use "google" to search for many different things,and like it for that purpose..one thing I dislike about it(and many similar sites) is all my posts here,and on other sites like CK5, seem to end up on google,just because one word is in my post someone might be searching for..and its popcorn to find my real name on there,then you can get my adresss and phone number,and mapquest directions to my home,even get sattelite airial photograpghs!..:eek1:

    They sure make it easy for cyber-stalkers and terrorists to find those things out,don't they..ahh..techknowlogy..sometimes I feel there is way TOO much info floating around in cyberspace..and "Myspace" is in my opinion just a convienient place for spying on people to occour..

    Some teens got busted here for painting grafitti on buildings,and they were stupid enough to post photos of their handywork,and brag about it on "Myspace"..and the gestapo was watching,and read about it..OWNED!..just shows there ARE eyes watching you everywhere,AND watching what you type too..:eek1: ..the computer is like a recorder,and it plays back everything you print, to anyone with internet accsess...not that I condone illegall grafitti ,but what happened to privacy rights??

    And I wasn't paranoid BEFORE I typed this..but now I'm not so sure!:doah: ..gotta go now..someones READING this!!..:eek1: .
     
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    I had a class today and there was a sud teacher in, he teaches computer forensics. I learned that even if you dlete something, it only erases the directory, not the file. Unless you fill your drive up it can still be accessed, but you need the right utitlities to access it. Crazy stuff.
     
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    privacy rights? when there's destruction of property involved, who cares about privacy rights? dont wanna get caught? DONT POST IT IN A PUBLIC PLACE!

    and you've always been paranoid. :rolleyes:
     
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    Neat little linux program called shred... it re-writes random data multiple times over said nodes the file covered on a disk.
     
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    Someone is spying on me? I'm flattered. :blush: :blush: :blush:
     
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    I pity the poor schmuck who steals my identity.:haha:
     
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    :haha: :haha: :haha: If they stole mine, they would give it back for sure!
     
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    All about control.
     
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    I'm spying on you... :whistle:






































    Kidding......:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
     

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