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Why is Communism so horribly villified?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by sled_dog, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. sled_dog

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    Many Americans seem to feel that Communism is some evil snake that worms its way into things and must be erradicated. I don't get it. The general ideal of communism doesn't sound, HORRIBLE to me, it is just a fantasy. The central ideas hinge on human ability to be a good person. And we simply are not all good people. The IDEA is a mildly good one, not evil IMO. Would I ever want to live in a communist state? No, but doesn't mean the idea is the most horrible thing. So why is it that Communists are evil? Just a cold war throw back that people were trained to believe? And if it is really THAT evil, why does ANYONE support free trade with China??? Isn't it still a communist country?
     
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    First off true Communism never was around during the cold war. Communism has no goverment and people share every thing. Durring the cold war the USSR was a socilist country where the goverment controalled the economy and the daily lives of the poeple.
     
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    the way i understand communism, pretty much everybody is made equal. so Bill Gates becomes and average guy, and the crackhead down the street who steals the tools out of your garage gets everything that Bill Gates gets. there are too many people in this country on a free ride as it is. if the US turned to a communist system, do you think they'd work harder for what they're getting? if you do, i've got a bridge for sale...
     
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    that is part of my point. People find Communists and communism evil when there has basically never been a true communist state.
     
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    Like I said, it hinges on people being good... and people just aren't good.
     
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    On paper communism is awsome, but thats on paper, its hard enough to make work for a small society let alone a large one. (or a nation) Like you said communism is villified. stallin and castro arent the best posterchilds for a government. i have a feeling that it could work if you bought a huge piece opf land and started your own comunity, its small enough where everyone can work with and rely on each other. your all equal cause you all need each other to survive.
     
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    People are not good and most of them are inherently lazy.

    I like excelling and doing better than others, communism preaches total equality. If there are no rewards for excelling why would anyone work harder than the next guy?
     
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    U.S.S.R. was based on the ideals of communism. Communism is an idea where everybody gets the same...regardless of your job. So, yes, a man with a PHD will get the same amount of money as a garbage collector. But this is where the problem arises. They would set an age that you come before a council. You actually have your career set for you by that council. You need special papers to go state to state. You were punished for dissenting the state/country. The reason Communism was/is looked at is bad is because they called themselves a communist state and were opressive and people don't know to look at an actual description of communism. Why did Russia have to be that way? Because....in trying to make Communism work, they oppressed people's freedoms, because with true freedom, someone will have more than someone else.

    We've had this conversation before. Communism is a great IDEA, but an idea it will forever be.
     
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    Communism is not and never will be a great or good idea. All men are created equal, after that its up to their own damn asses to succeed. I honestly do not recognize how everyone being equal regardles of skill is a good idea.
     
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    this is exactly why communism doesnt work, its just human nature
     
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    The only good communist is a graveyard dead communist....................

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    During the same image search, I found this...................... :D
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    All men aren't created equal. They don't start equal and never will be equal. But they will have equal rights in our country. That's what's equal. As an ideal anyway. However at the moment it appears that criminals are more equal than non-criminals. *stirring the pot*
     
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    communism as an idea is not evil but in practice it is in direct opposition to the natural yearnings given by God to distinguish our selves as an individual and control our own destiny be it good or bad. The only way to practice communism is to deny this and force conformity across the board.
     
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    lets not start a discussion of who has more rights around here.... and no I don't mean women just because you happen to be one :haha: ok yeah not going there...
     
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    (Hijack) Criminal thing made me think...isn't it funny how Democrats want lawyers for terrorists to represent them in our judicial system on the presumption they are innocent until proven guilty when they already say the scooter Libby is guilty even though there hasn't been a trial and that Karl Rove should resign even though he wasn't even indicted? Sure seems like that isn't selective, eh? :rolleyes: (End hijack)
     
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    Nice pic there Bubba.....ooh la la
     
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    If you break it down logically, it's really not even a good idea, just kind of a well-wishing idea.

    Aside from the several reasons already, communism can never function, either.

    - Everyone in the communist society would have to be in total agreement with it and at all times. This denies freedom to someone coming of age unless they're allowed to leave to communist society.
    - There would have to be a ruling body/government to maintain basic services necessary for a society.
    - Some families/individuals would be required to work harder for others.
    - You would be required to have the same likes/dislikes as others in the society in order to maintain equality.
    - The economy would flop.

    Communism (as vilified) is evil because it removes freedom. You are required to comply with the collective.

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    You'll probably hate this answer

    Communism is an invalid form of government because it's athiestic, and attempts to enforce a standard of equality in a way that kills the human spirit.

    It appeals to the power seekers, because " bringing the rich people down to the level of the commoner " is a great way to make sure there's no challenge to them when they get into power. It also appeals to the crowd that fears competition, and would like to be taken care of in this world.

    Communism is just another philosophy, and one that has at its center the tenet that there is no god, and man is good enough to have evolved into a higher state of huggy bunny let's all help our brother nationhood.

    And like most philosophies, it has nothing to do with reality, and is best left in the classroom, where it can't hurt anyone.

    Communism, facism, and any other " ism " will fail because the Almighty God is not acknowledged as the source of the rights of the people.

    When governments set themselves up as the dispensers of the rights and liberties of the people, the gov't in a sense becomes god, and the people can be herded as is wished by those in power. Sadly, we are heading down this road ourselves, trading liberty for the welfare state.

    After WWII, the intellectuals who LOVED josef stalin ( but would never move there ) because communism was SO much better than the evil capitalist US, started the ACLU with the express purpose of spreading communism under the guise of protecting individual rights.

    So, to answer the initial question, communism is bad because it denies God. The fact that our founding fathers were God fearing christians is the only reason we have any semblance of a free nation, despite peoples efforts to throw away what we have.

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    I'm not entirely sure, but I think you have them (socialism and communism) mixed up. I think in communism the government makes sure everything is "equal."

    Like said, communism is about as practical as anarchism as a social structure because of people not being perfect (the road to hell is paved with good intentions), and just plain greed. And really, anarchism would mean people being even MORE responsible than in any other government.
     

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