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Why They Don't They Like Us

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Bubba Ray Boudreaux, Jan 24, 2003.

  1. Bubba Ray Boudreaux

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    Why They Don\'t They Like Us

    If you aren't interested in the ramblings of an old man, please delete now. If you're still there, pull up a chair and listen.
    Is there anyone else out there who's sick and tired of all the polls being taken in foreign countries as to whether or not they "like" us? The last time I looked, the word "like" had nothing to do with foreign policy. I prefer 'respect' or 'fear'. They worked for Rome, which civilized and kept the peace in the known world a hell of a lot longer than our puny two centuries-plus.
    I see a left-wing German got elected to office recently by campaigning against the foreign policy of the United States. Yeah, that's what I want, to be lectured about war and being a "good neighbor" by a German. Their head honcho said they wouldn't take part in a war against Iraq. Kind of nice, to see them taking a pass on a war once in while.

    Perhaps we needed to have the word "World" in front of War. I think it's time to bring our boys home from Germany. Outside of the money we'd save, we'd make the Germans "like" us a lot more, after they started paying the bills for their own defense.

    Last time I checked, France isn't too fond of us either. They sort of liked us back on June 6th, 1944, though, didn't they? If you don't think so, see how nicely they take care of the enormous American cemeteries up above the Normandy beaches.
    For those of you who've studied history, we also have a few cemeteries in places like Belleau Woods and Chateau Thierry. For those of you who haven't studied it, that was from World War One, the first time Europe screwed up and we bailed out the French. That's where the US Marines got the title 'Devil Dogs' or, if you still care about what the Germans think, Teufelhunde". I hope I spelled that right; sure wouldn't want to offend anyone, least of all a German.
    Come to think of it, when Europe couldn't take care of their Bosnian problem
    recently, guess who had to help out there also. Last time I checked, our kids are still there. I sort of remember they said they would be out in a year. Gee, how time flies when you're having fun.
    Now we hear that the South Koreans aren't too happy with us either. They "liked" us a lot better, of course, in June, 1950. It took more than 50,000 Americans killed in Korea to help give them the lifestyle they currently enjoy, but then who's counting?
    I think it's also time to bring the boys home from there. There are about 37,000 young Americans on the DMZ separating the South Koreans from their "brothers" up North. Maybe if we leave, they can begin to participate in the "good life" that North Korea currently enjoys. Uh huh. Sure.

    I also understand that a good portion of the Arab/Moslem world now doesn't "like" us either. Did anyone ever sit down and determine what we would have to do to get them to like us? Ask them what they would like us to do. Die? Commit ritual suicide?
    Maybe we should follow the advice of our dimwitted, dullest knife in the drawer, Senator Patty Murray, and build more roads, hospitals, day care centers, and orphanages like Osama bin Laden does. What with all the orphans Osama has created, the least he can do is build some places to put them. Senator Stupid says if we would only "emulate" Osama, the Arab world would love us. Sorry Patty; in addition to the fact that we already do all of those things around the world and have been doing them for over sixty years, I don't take public transportation, and I certainly wouldn't take it with a bomb strapped to the guy next to me.
    Don't get me wrong: I'm not in favor of going to war. Been there, done that. Several times, in fact. But I think we ought to have some polls in this country about other countries, and see if we "like" THEM. Problem is, if you listed the countries, not only wouldn't the average American know if he liked them or not, he wouldn't be able to find them. If we're supposed to worry about them, how about them worrying about us?
    We were nice to the North Koreans in 1994, as we followed the policies of Neville Clinton. And it seemed to work; they didn't re-start nuclear weapons program for a whole year or so. In the meantime, we fed them when they were starving, and put oil in their stoves when they were freezing.
    In a recent visit to Norway, I engaged in a really fun debate with my cousin's son, a student at a Norwegian University. I was lectured to by this thankless squirt about the American "Empire", and scolded about dropping the atomic bomb on the Japanese. I reminded him that empires usually keep the stuff they take; we don't, and back in 1945 most Norwegians thought dropping ANY kind of bomb on Germany or Japan was a good idea.
    I also reminded him that my uncle, his grandfather, and others in our family spent a significant time in Sachsenhausen concentration camp, courtesy of the Germans, and they didn't all survive. I further reminded him that if it wasn't for the "American Empire" he would probably be speaking German or Russian.
    Sorry about the rambling, but I just took an unofficial poll here at our house, and we don't seem to like anyone.
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  2. SkulzNBonz

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    Re: Why They Don\'t They Like Us

    Amen. How well do you think the rest of the world would "like" us if we did take everything we have fought for? I've never been fond of most of the rest of the world either.

    Former Teufelhunden,
    John
     
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    Re: Why They Don\'t They Like Us

    I also question why we even bother. Seems we go in a help some country getting run over and then we get crapped on.
     
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    Re: Why They Don\'t They Like Us

    Just proves that we are'nt predjudice. (spelling?) We hate everyone equally... /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
     
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    Re: Why They Don\'t They Like Us

    That seems like common sence to me. It's amazing how people soon forget. I wonder where the world would be if we pulled out of everything?
     
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    Re: Why They Don\'t They Like Us

    The latest thing that really irks me is all the cities around the US who have their city councils voting not to support the pending war with Iraq.

    What the **** is up with that?!?! /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
     
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    Just proves that we are'nt predjudice. (spelling?) We hate everyone equally...

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    Nice sarcasm. The guy pretty much nailed it on the head.

    Something that my ole Grandpap told me the one and only time he broke out the albums and started talking about his time in Europe from 44-46 when he was hanging with some dude named George /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif.

    He said while they were rolling across France, they had to watch their backs cause the French were not trustworty, yet when they hit the Rhine, the Germans loved them and they didn't have a problem.

    I think the whole problem is animosity from doing what we did to them. First, we kicked the British around a little bit, bought out the French and kicked them to the curb, and had to lay the smackdown not once, but twice on Germany. So there in lies some jealously for one-uping them.

    Then there's the bit about a bunch of good old boys coming over here, setting up camp and making a new country all to our own. Then the European as we knew it evolved into the American person and we have all this wide open space to ourselves, whereas they are stuck with one another right next door.

    So for the last sixty years almost, we've had troops over there, making sure Mother Russia didn't come steamrolling across the continent.

    So all in all, it's just petty jealousy because after we kicked them around some, we took it upon themselves to protect them cause they either
    a. were unable to
    b. refused to
    c. both a and b.

    If someone doesn't appreciate me helping them out, then they can piss off as far as I'm concerned. So in the big picture, as far as I'm concerned, if these countries don't appreciate us helping them out when they needed it, they can piss off too.
     
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    The problem I see with the French and the Germans is they are Socialist countrys and are basicly at our mercy. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif What I mean by that is around the 60's those two countrys oppted for spending most of their money on social programs and cut off most of their defence spending. So now all they really have is a vote in the UN. Say for instance with the current situation with Iraq both France and Germany could veto the use of military action to dissarm Iraq. Ok thats all fine and dandy but then what do they do if we go in with out their support. They look like big idiots with a meaningless votes.
    So as usual they will have to go along with us or lose out because as they say "To the Victors belong the spoils". So they will ante up cause they're to greedy to miss out on the party.
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    You pretty much hit it on the head.
     
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    I totlay agree with both of you /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    BTW I don't think Germany has a veto vote. Youve got to openly own and posses nukes for that. Maybee if Sadam admited he had Nukes they let him on the security council and then he could veto the attacks and start a resolution to attack us /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    Opps your right Germany is not a permmanent member of the security council. They still ain't got sh!t on Us though.
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    You pretty much hit it on the head.

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