I was just wondering how some of the brands other that Warn are. I would like a warn, but could definitly get a higher rating for less money if I went with someone like Mile Marker. I don't care about brand names, but I do care about the end product. I know electric would be convenient, but I've also got PTO's out the wazoo so I have that to consider. I don't have a clue about installing stuff on PTO's, and don't even know if it would be cheaper, or more reliable. And what happens when you submerse them in mud? Would the electric motors suffer? So what, electric, PTO, or hydraulic? Warn, or something else?