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WTF!!! My lug/stud is spinning I cant get the wheel off.

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by deothrwhtmt, Jul 21, 2001.

  1. deothrwhtmt

    deothrwhtmt Registered Member

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    I took my truck to a shop today for a simple rotation while I as on break for lunch. I come back and they tell me they cant do anything to front because the lug is turning in the disk!!! It was all fine when I got my new tires a month ago. Now they want to torch the stud/nut off with "minimal" damage to the rim!!!!!!!!!!! Can anybody tell me how to get this thing off without damage to my wheels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    it aint fun, but you can drill the stud
    start with a center punch and use about 4 different drill bits in steps


    It needs a bigger motor.
    what's in it now?
    doen't matter it NEEDS A BIGGER MOTOR
    89 350tbi/700r4h/np208/4.11's
     
  3. deothrwhtmt

    deothrwhtmt Registered Member

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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How do I keep the stud/bolt from spinning while I am tryint to drill?
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sometimes it is easer to break the stud off with a BFH. Just don't miss! Heck when I was doing my ball joints I had a stud break off in my hand.

    '71 Blazer CST w/ a 400sbc, 4" lift, 36" Supper Swampers, and alot of rust
     
  5. deothrwhtmt

    deothrwhtmt Registered Member

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    How do I do that without damaging the rotor? Or is the rotor gone to begin with? Where should I smack it? I just got my weld wheels so I dont want to mess this up.
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    couldnt you pull the the rotor off with the wheel?? it would be a bitch but you could do it could you?? then torch it or chisel from the back

    AJ
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yeah it might not be a good idea because of your new wheels. Do they have taper lugs or the step kind? I haven't tried it with the step kind.

    '71 Blazer CST w/ a 400sbc, 4" lift, 36" Supper Swampers, and alot of rust
     
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    I don't think you can pull the wheel and the rotor off at the same time because the caliper will hold the rotor.?.?.?.?

    '71 Blazer CST w/ a 400sbc, 4" lift, 36" Supper Swampers, and alot of rust
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I have acorn lug nuts. Yes. You are right about the caliper holing this rotor on. I came up with that idea at the shop.
     
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    It is going to be tough to do without damaging the wheel. Maby a short piece of 2x4 aginst the stud and hit the 2x4 with the BFH. You want to hit the lug as much from the side as possible. Also try to put a breaker bar on with the lug with the breaker bar sticking straight out. Than put a pipe on the breaker bar and stand on it or hit it. You want to try to bend the stud (they are weakest in bending). Did the shop you took it to try to Tighten the lug with the impact (yet another way to break them if the stud will grip just a bit). If that doesen't work the only other thing I can think of it to drill it out while holding the lug with a wrench. Good luck.

    '71 Blazer CST w/ a 400sbc, 4" lift, 36" Supper Swampers, and alot of rust<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Triaged on 07/21/01 06:38 PM.</FONT></P>
     
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    Thanks guys for all your help. I am going ot try all of the listed stuff you have posted for me. If it doesnt work I am going to get it torched and cry about my wheel. Any more suggestions are gladly taken.
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Are the wheels the type where the nut is recessed into a hole? Or is the entire nut exposed? They do make very large bolt breakers (like a lock cutter but the blades are perpindicular to the handles).

    Or:
    Can you reach the caliper bolts with the wheel on? Remove the locating pins that anchor it to the axle and the brake line then remove the entire wheel with caliper....? I am probably forgetting something.

    Dave

    If You Drink Don't Park, Accidents Cause People.

    91 K5 - in the process of 4" lift with D60/14FF plus LOTS of extras. ETF August 1.
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How bout a nut breaker I have one at work you could probably break it with one of those.... with no damage to the rim.



    Scott
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    First off, change the name of the post- might want to include what the problem is. Get somemore replys to it.

    When I run across these, First I start b!tching. Then I cut the stud and lug nut with a die-grinder. Right down the center of the lug nut. Then split the lug nut with a impact hammer and a chisel bit. Usualy, the lug nut is hardend and will split easily, Its a pretty ugly deal, but I can usualy save the rim.

    If you don't have Air tools. You might be able to use a Dremil tool with a cut off wheel. Cut the lug nut down the center on two sides, and use a chisel and hammer to split the nut. Might even want to try acouple of grinder bitts on the Dremil tool too.

    Dremil tools rock!

    Good luck

    Twiztid
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    just hold it with a wrench, and start drilling, if you have good hss drill bits it should only take a few minute to get the pilot hole, and then the rest go pretty quick.



    It needs a bigger motor.
    what's in it now?
    doen't matter it NEEDS A BIGGER MOTOR
    89 350tbi/700r4h/np208/4.11's
     
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    Hey man. I guess thats why you blew the cell. up with your number. I have all the tools to do what is listed here at my dads including "sparky". I dont think you have enough play room behind the wheel to loosen those bolts from the caliper. We'll find out.
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yet another idea is to hold the lug w/ a socket and a pair of vice grips, then shoot the drill thru the square hole in the top of the socket. Also try to tighten the lug nut as was mentioned, to get it tightened back up the crank away till it breaks. Hope ya dont have 9/16 studs!!!

    Out of 100,000 sperm, YOU were the fastest?? [​IMG]
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Using a socket as a guide - that is a damn fine trick!

    Can you post one of these jewels once a day pls?

    You guys rock.

    Dave

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    91 K5 - in the process of 4" lift with D60/14FF plus LOTS of extras. ETF August 1.
     
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    Re: WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Another sugestion...
    This is what I would do.
    Hold the nut or stud with a pair of vice grips.
    Drill a small center hole on the stud.
    Increase the hole to a resonable size hole for a easy-out.
    Insert the easy-out and use it to hold the stud from spinning while I undo the nut. Add WD40 to help it come off easy and don't use to small of an easy-out that will snap off.
    If it won't come off, remove easy-out and keep drilling.
    BTW... You will need to drill the top of the lug head large enough 1/2"? through the top of the lug if you have chrome lug nuts to get to the stud. Good luck.
    Don't give up on the rim!

    [​IMG]<font color=red>[/b]"Rid'in HigH in my K5"[​IMG]
    ....[​IMG]<font color=blue>[/b]"6" Lift -<font color=purple>38.5's"[​IMG]....
     
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    Nice tip!!!!!!!! I am on the phone with Drew and he is going to use a 12ga. shotgun shell for a pilot device. I cant really tighten the nut/stud at all it just spins in the hole. The acorn comes flush with the wheel surface.
     

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