14 Bolt & Dana 60 Disk Brake Brackets

[Copperhead Fab]

14 Bolt & Dana 60 Brake Brackets that weld on to the axle tube. Made from ¼” steel and is taped for 7/16” caliper bolts. Made to work with rotors from a '73-'87 GM 3/4T front axle and calipers from a '73-'87 1/2 or 3/4T front. 2 brackets for $30.00 plus shipping

 

[mr250twostroke]

I certainly hope your products have better attention to detail than the hydro bender brackets I have and another member here just got. Pretty damn rough imo.
Good luck to you, really.

 

[Copperhead Fab]

I certainly hope your products have better attention to detail than the hydro bender brackets I have and another member here just got. Pretty damn rough imo.
Good luck to you, really.

I'm sorry that you are not completely satisfied with your purchase. Please call me or PM with details of the problem. With the above unsubjective post, i cant fix any problems that exist. Thanks for your good wishes.

 

[mr250twostroke]

I'm sorry that you are not completely satisfied with your purchase. Please call me or PM with details of the problem. With the above unsubjective post, i cant fix any problems that exist. Thanks for your good wishes.

No worries, took care of it myself and the bender does work great. Ive probably just been spoiled by the other vendors here. They've set a very high bar.

 

[4X4HIGH]

PM sent to you.

 

[4X4HIGH]

14 Bolt & Dana 60 Brake Brackets that weld on to the axle tube. Made from ¼” steel and is taped for 7/16” banjo bolts. Made to work with rotors from a '73-'87 GM 3/4T front axle and calipers from a '73-'87 1/2 or 3/4T front. 2 brackets for $30.00 plus shipping

You might want to fix your wording about these brackets. There are no banjo bolts that thread into the bracket but rather caliper mounting bolts. Also, IMHO 1/4" steel isn't thick enough to give proper thread engagement to hold a brake caliper. The general rule of thumb is to have the threaded hole at least as deep as the diameter of the fastener that will thread into it.

 

[Copperhead Fab]

You might want to fix your wording about these brackets. There are no banjo bolts that thread into the bracket but rather caliper mounting bolts. Also, IMHO 1/4" steel isn't thick enough to give proper thread engagement to hold a brake caliper. The general rule of thumb is to have the threaded hole at least as deep as the diameter of the fastener that will thread into it.

Your "rule of thumb" might hold true for course thread and for a fastener that is experiencing a tension force on the threads, where in a brake caliper it is not.


I fixed the wording in the post.

 

[4X4HIGH]

Your "rule of thumb" might hold true for course thread and for a fastener that is experiencing a tension force on the threads, where in a brake caliper it is not.


I fixed the wording in the post.

Wow, i was just trying to help you. I'm not going to argue with you since it really won't help you in changing your product slightly so that it is as strong as any other vendor selling these brackets. The rule of thumb doesn't matter what thread you're using, course or fine.

Also since i see that i won't get anywhere with you about my hydro bracket issue i'll just make the parts myself (after seeing the quality i should have just made the whole thing myself from the start).

I truely do wish you success. Sometimes you have to sit back and listen to what YOUR POTENTIAL CUSTOMER has to say about your product as they are the ones who will ultimately make or break your business.


Good luck, and i mean that sincerely.

 

[Copperhead Fab]

Wow, i was just trying to help you. I'm not going to argue with you since it really won't help you in changing your product slightly so that it is as strong as any other vendor selling these brackets. The rule of thumb doesn't matter what thread you're using, course or fine.

Also since i see that i won't get anywhere with you about my hydro bracket issue i'll just make the parts myself (after seeing the quality i should have just made the whole thing myself from the start).

I truely do wish you success. Sometimes you have to sit back and listen to what YOUR POTENTIAL CUSTOMER has to say about your product as they are the ones who will ultimately make or break your business.


Good luck, and i mean that sincerely.

We take every bit of advice and criticism we can get, it makes us think more about our existing product and new products and if we can improve them for the use they are intended for. Thank you for your wishes, and we do listen to the customers, thats why we are here.

 

[guz71]

Giving advice goes both ways. That bolt is not under a large tension force, it is subjected to large stress though. That much thread engagement is not necessary in this case. That is not going to affect the single shear on the bolt. If you had that much of an issue with the products then you should have contacted him, I am sure he would have made it right.

Set the bar high, I have had problems with ORD, Diy4x, and NWF(those are the only ones I have dealt with). Whether it be quality, customer service, or waiting forever I had issues. For the most part, hey all made it right after I got in contact with them. So give the guy a chance, he didnt even get his foot in the door. Not everyone is perfect, that includes all the other vendors on this board as well.

I have dealt with copperheadfab many of times and I have always had great results and customer service.

 

[4X4HIGH]

Giving advice goes both ways. That bolt is not under a large tension force, it is subjected to large stress though. That much thread engagement is not necessary in this case. That is not going to affect the single shear on the bolt. If you had that much of an issue with the products then you should have contacted him, I am sure he would have made it right.

Set the bar high, I have had problems with ORD, Diy4x, and NWF(those are the only ones I have dealt with). Whether it be quality, customer service, or waiting forever I had issues. For the most part, hey all made it right after I got in contact with them. So give the guy a chance, he didnt even get his foot in the door. Not everyone is perfect, that includes all the other vendors on this board as well.

I have dealt with copperheadfab many of times and I have always had great results and customer service.

I agree that the bolt in question isn't under a tension force but it is being subjected to a lot of stress with the 4" or so of bolt that supports the caliper on the back side.

 

[mr250twostroke]

Set the bar high, I have had problems with ORD, Diy4x, and NWF(those are the only ones I have dealt with). Whether it be quality, customer service, or waiting forever I had issues. For the most part, hey all made it right after I got in contact with them. So give the guy a chance, he didnt even get his foot in the door. Not everyone is perfect, that includes all the other vendors on this board as well.

I have dealt with copperheadfab many of times and I have always had great results and customer service.

I call em like "I" see em, not like "you" see em. I have dealt with all of the above as well and must be lucky that all ive had to do was paint and install, if even paint. Im not talking about customer service or shipping either, that can suck ANYWHERE.
Yes, the bar has been set high imo and I do wish them very well, really.
Not sure how my statement is defined as not giving a chance. I mean really, who the phuck am I.
He sounds like he can handle himself very well but I suppose sticking up for a fellow Texan is commendable, when necessary.
For what its worth, I have sent them business, even met a rep of his at the Puyallup, Wa swap meet.
You know what they say about opinions...

 

[mrdrinksalil]

oooo, this ones gettin JUICY ...

 

[guz71]

Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Fortunately for you, you have had good luck with the other vendors. I have too, but I have also had some bad luck. Customer service is something that should not be overlooked either. When I spend amost 800 on a doubler kit and almost 400 on some shifters, I want some decent service. When I say give a chance, I mean give him a chance to make it right. If you took care of it yourself that is great, but it doesnt sound like much of a chance for him to make it right.

There is no doubt the bolt is under a large stress, the Threads on the other hand are not subjected to that much of a force. The force acting on the bolt is tryin to shear it off the bracket, it wouldnt be any different if it was a pin connection.

 

[mr250twostroke]

When I say give a chance, I mean give him a chance to make it right. If you took care of it yourself that is great, but it doesnt sound like much of a chance for him to make it right.

<nods head, extends hand>
If it wasnt easier to solve myself in my shop I certainly would have. However, doing so would have simply cost more time and money and my ram was screaming to bend. Its simply attention to detail for which he has already agreed was caused by faulty equipment. No harm, no foul, my equipment isnt perfect either.
I would "consider" him/them again (beadlocks are on my list) in the future and will watch for products right here at CK5 May they make many happy customers and sing the "Yellow Rose of Texas" all the way to the bank.

 

[4X4HIGH]

If you had that much of an issue with the products then you should have contacted him, I am sure he would have made it right.

I did PM him about my issues with the bracket/spacers i told him i don't even have my bender yet (next couple days) but when i do then i would know what i was going to do. In his reply to me he did not even offer to send me some "good" spacers. Now i know if i was a vendor and someone sent me a PM stating a concern about a portion of their product (dented and crooked cut spacers) i would have offered immediately to make a couple new spacers that weren't cut crooked or damaged and ship them out ASAP. Is that asking too much?

I guess not everyone is like myself. When i make a purchase i would rather spend a little more money on the same item knowing that there is quality in the product i'm buying. Why spend a little less money just to have to spend more to fix something or even have to buy some other vendors product to be happy.

 

[kennyw]

Also, IMHO 1/4" steel isn't thick enough to give proper thread engagement to hold a brake caliper. The general rule of thumb is to have the threaded hole at least as deep as the diameter of the fastener that will thread into it.

Actually, the rule of thumb in the engineering world is 1.5X the diameter of the bolt is the minimum thread engagement in A36 steel for pull out strength. Luckily in this application the threads only hold the pin in. The spacer and head of the caliper bolt actually act as a pin for the caliper to slide side to side on.

 

[4X4HIGH]

I'm really curious now to see how many people would actually buy and be happy with a 1/4" brake caliper bracket when EVERYBODY else who makes them are made of 3/8" material.

There are two things on my rig that i would NEVER compromise on, brakes and steering components.

 

[guz71]

Fair enough, whatever you have going on between yall is your business, and I cant argue with you about that. Whether or not the bracket is up to snuff on the other hand I have disagree. I have seen the brackets used and abused without any issues. I am positive the bolt will shear long before the brackets goes. Just as mentioned before, you know what they say about opinions....Until somebody does some shear/bending calculations or shows me where the bracket failed, I stand behind my opinion. With that much force and leverage, 7/16" is not a whole lot of meat.

mr250twostroke, hand extended.