There is another thread on this already. They killed it with this.
CK5
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2021 Leaked Bronco pic...
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GM’s market is the loafer crowd. That’s where they are comfortable.
Jeep just dropped this. Now this has me interested.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ca...ep-wrangler-v-8-rubicon-392-concept-revealed/
Jeep just dropped this. Now this has me interested.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ca...ep-wrangler-v-8-rubicon-392-concept-revealed/
79rustyk10
3/4 ton status
I grew up in an 86, and 94 Bronco. I dont remember much of the 86, but am intimately familiar with that 94. 351/E4OD/3.55... just stock. Incredibly reliable, meh mileage, decent power, but a better truck engine than a 5.3 chevy...
The biggest issues with that truck were caused by corrosion. If the prices weren't reflective of their becoming collector status I'd be looking for one to replace my 06 1500.
Sure, its not a Ford and I agree with that. But... if you wanted to go to Moab today and go see the sights, had no mechanical abillity and were going to buy something capable, what would you do? That's why Jeeps are all over the rockies. Swarms of them. Ford just stepped up big time in the enthusiast market. If I could just get over that 4 letter word I might go to the darkside myself. Its cool.
Thats why I have the Iron Maiden, I wouldnt buy something new thinking it would be capable enough, let alone take it out on trails for that kind of money....I just need a commuter car.
beags86
Eastbound and Down
If they want to compete they have the Hummer name in the books.
Now I don't want to hear about the new Hummer and their direction with it. It might be (Because we really don't know) and electric competitor.
I also don't want to hear about the h2. That thing sold in troves when they came out.
The h3 could have been a legit off roader.
The h3 alpha was badass. But once again gm didn't market it well. And just like the Colorado ZR2....since it's not a solid axle it gets ignored by the general off road community.
The raptor has a cult following because those stupid bro graphics on the side and those 3 damn lights in the grill.
As far as the name? Who cares. In 1966 no one every heard of a Camaro. And it went on to sell like crazy for 50 years. And is one of the most recognized Chevy names ever.
Names are created everyday.
I am with @HankScorpio though. GM should build something and actually spend some real actual money marketing a better off road toy.
ZR2/Z71/Hummer/Blazer/Alpha. Call it whatever you want. It doesn't matter to me.
Now I don't want to hear about the new Hummer and their direction with it. It might be (Because we really don't know) and electric competitor.
I also don't want to hear about the h2. That thing sold in troves when they came out.
The h3 could have been a legit off roader.
The h3 alpha was badass. But once again gm didn't market it well. And just like the Colorado ZR2....since it's not a solid axle it gets ignored by the general off road community.
The raptor has a cult following because those stupid bro graphics on the side and those 3 damn lights in the grill.
As far as the name? Who cares. In 1966 no one every heard of a Camaro. And it went on to sell like crazy for 50 years. And is one of the most recognized Chevy names ever.
Names are created everyday.
I am with @HankScorpio though. GM should build something and actually spend some real actual money marketing a better off road toy.
ZR2/Z71/Hummer/Blazer/Alpha. Call it whatever you want. It doesn't matter to me.
Jeeps are still hard to beat if you’re actually going to take your bank account offroading. In reality how many of you drive your newer trucks offroad, good thing they have push button t/c or the linkage would seize up from not being used.
79rustyk10
3/4 ton status
Name doesnt sell anything anymore except Camaro, Mustang, and Corvette to retirees.
Gm doesn't care about the off road crowd. Why engineer something cool, capable, and new, when you can poop out another stupid tall boxy car and call it an "SUV".
Gm doesn't care about the off road crowd. Why engineer something cool, capable, and new, when you can poop out another stupid tall boxy car and call it an "SUV".
I agree. The danger with not having all segments covered is that if I were to buy a Bronco for wheeling, and it was good, then there is nothing stopping me from going to a F350 for work. If I buy a Jeep, then I still will look to GM when I need a pickup because Jeep doesn't make a real truck. Brand loyalty doesn't mean as much as it used to. GM should be afraid of the Bronco, it could cost them customers in the future.
79rustyk10
3/4 ton status
They should also be worried about their horrendous styling sending buyers elsewhere.
I went wheeling in Grand Junction over the 4th with familly. '18 JK, not a rubicon, sport model. Factory limited slip rear with a small lift for 35's. No stupid accessories, bumpers, grumpers, vicowls, led's, or a rooftop tent. No sat nav, dual climate control or anything extra. Just a Jeep with Nittos. Cruising around with the AC on, it was pretty sweet and quite capable.
beags86
Eastbound and Down
I would buy that over any cheaply made Jeep any day of the week.
Poop being the operative word
Doesn't really matter to me anyway. I can't afford anything newer than 2010.
beags86
Eastbound and Down
Just a reminder. Yeah gm missed the boat on this one but meanwhile they were putting out a Corvette that sells for 60k and dunks all over 300 thousand Porsche 911 GT2 RS's
No doubt the Jeep pie is too big not to get some action of. Don't understand it, can't justify it.
No doubt the Jeep pie is too big not to get some action of. Don't understand it, can't justify it.
It’s a Jeep thing, you wouldn’t understand
beags86
Eastbound and Down
I really don't. Of course I don't get the blazer thing either.
