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454 or 500 cadde ???????

The bellhousing adapter is only about $70 at Jegs!

Mike

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I would love to see a Poncho powered Blazer

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Probably nex spring you can get to see one. I have two 400's sittin in the garage waiting to be installed after a rebuild... I may even make one into a 455 before I install it, depending on the funds available at the time.

Mike

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Let me know where you get the brackets for the pontiac motor. I want to do this too.

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Motor mount brackets? That is the one thing I haven't looked into yet.

Mike

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In regards to trans adapters for Chevy to Cad, be careful what you buy. Some are nothing but a piece of tin that won't hold up while the ones from Cadillac Motorsport Development (now called the Cad Company) are works of art. Virtually as bulletproof as possible! Cad cylinder heads can be easily modified for bigger valves and custom rocker shafts if extreme duty is expected. The rock arm design promotes heavy duty use and next to impossible to break and front mounted distributor is a bonus. As I'm in the process of building another truck, I'm giving serious consideration to another Cad. I have a 454 engine sitting in the garage ready to be rebuilt but keep thinking back about how strong that Cad was. Now that Edelbrock has their manifolds for the Cad, it only gets better. Something about 500 cubic inches of low end torque I can't get over.

87 K5, D60 & 14FF, 5 sp & NP208 & 383 stroker. Build it Bulletproof and take it fishing!
 
I just cant see going through all the trouble of stuffing in and a adapting a thirty year old motor that I cant run down to the local parts house and get parts for at o dark thirty on tuesday night so I can get to work on wednesday, like I can with the 454 even if it is thirty years old and I dont have to adapt nothin. The cads is obviously a viable alternative, I admit more so than I thought. But I still would not ever use one in my daily driver I simply cant afford to have my rig down for a couple days while I special order parts that I hope some specialty place actually has in stock and pray that I dont get put on eternal back order.

Ben

Subvert the accepted paradigm.
 
*Smacks hand into forehead* "beer in hand causes dent in forehead":)

And makes Capn respond with silly questions about power touque bore and stroke, like this---- what are the "actual numbers"? what do you
mean? Final HP and Torque numbers? Bore and stroke numbers? How many beers were consumed while building
the motor?

A true master knows all success in the universe can be measured in relation to beers consumed during that process which is being questioned. When you realize this and you can snatch the small pebble from my hand you to will be a master grasshopper :) lol

You must there for carefully cosider which engine will provide you the most opportunity to consume beer and share wisdom in your garage with other masters while they drink beer also. Only through this proccess can you achieve maximum potential fom any engine. Only the greatest masters can do this day after day until the project is complete. lol

Of course the greatest masters also get their friends to bring the beer!!

sorry I just thought this thread needed a tension breaker.

Ben

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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!
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Well then imagine all the beer you could consume if you had to wait for parts
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LOL. No actually we have a couple old Caddys that come in w/ 472's and can't say we have ever had a real hard time finding anything. Sometimes you have to venture away from the crappy CSK and Checkers, but unless it is a real oddball part like an exhaust manifold, bracket, maybe a balancer... other then that I think parts avaialbilty is ok... Most of that stuff for a engine that again and even if it is a BBC is order.

-Mikey
1987 Chevy K5 Blazer- 350 TBI
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Capn

Well now you dispelling the myths I live by and forcing me to learn new things. Just who the h-ll do you think you are any ways.:) lol
by the way what does ROTFLMAO mean????

Ben

Subvert the accepted paradigm.
 
LOL, ROTFLMAO, LSHIH, TITIAFT,

oh, sorry... got caught up in internet speak for a second... Stuff'll make you see double and speak funny... Stuff'll make you see double and speak funny...

Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Arse Off - ROTFLMAO

Good to see this topic becoming less aggressive all around!!

Ratch
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Wow !!!! I take a few days off to repair the wifes car an look what happens........ Let me say thanks to all who replied, all is really apprecated (sp). Here is what I after . 1st I don't really dont do any heavy wheeling ( no place to do it here ).. 2nd I want to keep things simple ( eazer to repair that way).. I want to be able to pull something heavy when I need too. 3rd I beleave that haven more mtr than you need is not a bad thing.. I like to see high vaccumm readings when Im cruzzing the highway's cuz to me that means Im not working the sheeaaaaaat out of the mtr.. Right now my blaze run about 5 hgs of manafold pressure at 65 mph ( not good).. Therfore a mtr thats not working hard last lounger and get better MPG ??? I do like to play off rode when I can find a place to do it. So there I might be full of the stinky stuff but Thats what Im after..I have 31x10.50 with 3.43 gears an a nicely built 700r4 that I did myself... Hope this helps focuss ( sp) the responces... Thanks Rick...

1985 Blazer, 305 soon to be a TBI 350, 700r4, msd ign, 3.43s, headers, 31x10.50x15s
 
First of all, I don't read Hot Rod Magazine.

I built the motor in my truck. That's where I came up with the, "matched combo" idea. Believe me, what I said isn't as childish as you might think.

How many people do you know who're more obsessed with a rumpty rump idle than their motor's performance? I have, and it kills vehicles, no matter what the application.

Don't you EVER, DARE tell me that I read too many magazines. I take a LOT of offense to that. One of the main reasons I do is because I've managed to make a 305 make enough power to be the fastest small block truck in my class at the local 4x4 show. I was 4th or 5th out of 60-70 trucks.

If I learned everything I know from magazines, maybe you should go ahead and read the magazines I've read (never read an engine performance magazine in my whole life, actually). I seem to know what I'm talking about if I can make the dreaded 305 CID Chevy make more horsepower and torque than everything small block that Chevrolet ever had with TBI on it.

Man, that just irritates me to no end. Try some basic engine and power theory? Why don't you spend some time in the garage!! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to build a torquey motor. I know, because I did it myself, without the help of the wonderful magazines you preech.

Numbers mean SQUAT!! Match an inline 6 or any decent truck engine to your application with the proper carb, intake, camshaft, compression, exhaust, gear ratio, stall speed, etc. and it will perform better than you ever expected.

That idea was the only advice I've ever been given regarding engines that ever actually worked--that's why I passed it on. Make sure EVERY component is made to work with the next one in line and you'll be happy. Otherwise you end up with something no good at all for your application.

And if you take Mikey's advice and trust a computer program entirely, you're going to be completely disappointed.

Tim
'84 Chevy K10, lifted, loud, fast, and 3/4 ton axles<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by 84_Chevy_K10 on 09/06/01 09:23 PM.</FONT></P>
 
This is a truck website. We're not drag racing here, we're pushing a truck through some type of surface besides a road. Whether it be rocks, sand, mud, whatever, that's what the engine in our trucks is suppsoed to do.

My former Autos teacher was an ASE Certified Technician. It doesn't mean much to me anymore after meeting him. When I had to explain simple things like stall speed and converter lockup to him one day, that pretty much turned me off to what the man knew about cars totally.

Hanging out at a dragstrip isn't going to help you much off-roading either.

You might not have tried to make me look nasty, but either way, you did. I've met people twice your age that watch my truck do what I do with it that ask questions, where I learned this, etc. Don't tell me you're my "elder" or talk down to me as if I were a child. Don't tell me about drag racing. That's a totally different ballgame and application. This is an off road truck, not a street car, not a dragster,or any other type of vehicle. The tetstimonial to my sucess is under the hood of my truck.

You might have read books as a teen, or magazines, but I only read factual information. I'm really not much interested in other's opinions usually. I'd rather form my own opinion. I do study "engine theory" as you put it and I ask many questions of the guys who have done it.

You say for me not to talk down to you? Then don't talk down to me. Don't call yourself my, "elder". That's a bunch of BS. You want to talk respect? You better earn mine too.

In fact, the last two posts of yours are among the most disrespectful and rude remarks I've ever heard in my life. If someone at the 4x4 show would have, after the 17 year old kid ripped through that mud pit faster than just about anyone else, said something so rude, they'd probably either be leaving on a stretcher or just bleeding and in pain. I'm not going to take that kind of crap from anyone. I'm the only person that was standing next to the engine stand when my engine went together. I'm the one who turned the key when it ran, and I'm the one that knew everything would be fine. Talk down to me for my age when you find enough other 17 year olds that have done similar things.

These are TRUCKS, not drag cars. All the weekends you spent at the dragstrip are now useless. Get your truck on a tight, rutted, muddy trail, and then tell me what similarity that has to a dragstrip. If you get to something long, smooth, rutted, and fairly straight, that'd be about the closest you're going to come.

Gearing and traction are so much more important in a 4x4 than power it's pathetic anyway. To prove it, one day I'm going to take a 6 cylinder Geo to some kind of truck pull. I bet I could even win if I could put enough power to the ground. Go watch a truck pull sometime. Everytime you're on any off-road surface, the conditions are the same, it's just more exaggerated with another truck or a sled behind you. Take note of it, because if you can't get power to the ground, all the power you can make is totally useless.

Tim
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Hay, you guys want to delete your replys, so this awsome post dosen't get deleted. Please- . This things just too good to see it gone...

Alittle heat isn't bad, playing around and all..But I'd hate to see anyone get slamed just out of spite-


It's just opinions

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<font color=blue>Twiztid</font color=blue>&lt;P ID="edit"&gt;&lt;FONT class="small"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Edited by Twiztid on 09/06/01 11:59 PM.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
 
Sorry you feel that way Tim, but I'm over it. I'm also done.


I agree 100% with Twiz that this is an awsome post and will delete/edit my post to hopefully prevent any problems. Sorry guys and gals.

-Mikey
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Quote by 84 Chevy K10:

WOW!! This post brought out both the best and worst in everyone that posted in it!

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you said it brotha..
 
You're right Mike. I don't know how I got dragged into this one.

Tim
'84 Chevy K10, lifted, loud, fast, and 3/4 ton axles
 
Tim, you are sure trying to stereotype things here. An "off road truck" can be many things, all of which require a differently built motor - A rockcrawler is going to need gobs of torque, and not too much on the high end. A puller needs essentially a drag motor, as does a hardcore mudder. A desert rig needs good top-end, as well as better than OEM reliability - 1000 miles of bad Mexican roads is not 100 feet of mud. An all-around truck needs a little of all of the above. When I get around to building an actual race truck, I'd be delighted to have someone with Mikey's knowledge build the motor, and I'd learn everything I could from him. Even though I can build a motor, and it would probably hold up, that kind of experience will make it even better.

If I were you, I'd just settle down, and absorb everything I could from everyone on here - there's collectively hundreds of years worth of experience here, and a hell of alot of good ideas.

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