I have spent thousands of dollars with 4WPW in the last couple years. I NEVER pay freight. This year alone I've bought a set of wheels and my winch. I bought my wheels in July. I payed $40 each for them, NO shipping. They're 15x10, 8 lug, 4 1/4" BS. Today, they wouldn't sell them to me any cheaper than $50 each, and that's after I argued with him. Before that, he wanted $57 a piece for them plus shipping. CK5 discount? I dunno who you guys talked to but they never heard of us. Basically told me to shove it on that one. Lowest retail price on tires? He'd give me three dollars off the advertised price on a set of tires. That's it. I have boycotted Summit Racing for years after they screwed up my order and weren't good about making things right. I have no problem boycotting 4WPW, either. I'm just mad I didn't buy 4 or 5 sets of 15x10 8 lugs wheels at $160 a set. That really was a good price!!