70 AMX w/383 - Some Progress

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  1. beags86

    beags86 Eastbound and Down Premium Member

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    Yep, 87 cutlass owners can be like that.
     
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    folkenheath Innovate Engineering Vendor GMOTM Winner

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    That intake looks quite tall compared to most EFI intakes(similar to a super victor), do you have any concerns with hood clearance?
     
  3. acm

    acm 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    '87 442. Get it straight!!!

    The car actually has quite a bit of room for a tall intake once you remove the factory ram air tub. I've ran a Torker / 1/2" spacer / plate system and the current set up is a Air Gap with the same spacer and never had any clearance issues but I am still a bit concerned since Edelbrock hasn't released dimensions that I've seen.
     
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    Found a new engine stand...
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    Few more zip ties and some duct tape, should be ready to go!
     
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    That’s looking pretty sharp!
     
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    acm 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    Thx, just gotta remember where everything goes now.
    I miss not being old!
     
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    Bent77 lil meanie Staff Member Moderator GMOTM Winner

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    Yeah , I’ve gotten to the point of taking pictures and tagging wires. Sure makes it easier going back together!
     
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    acm 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    Wires are all tagged, have tons of pics and a spare Javelin that is stock and in 1 piece to compare to. Biggest problem is the lazy assembly guy. Good help is hard to find.
     
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    You find him, send him my way!
     
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    Still can't find good help.
    Spent the day working on the heap...didn't go so well.
    - passenger side header installed (35 minutes, kinda of impressed)
    - finished up driver's side header bolts (2 hrs, maybe 3. Not impressed. This includes modifying 4 hex wrenches, but for 6 forking bolts??? 5 went smoothly, 1 not so much.)
    - Installed & uninstalled the trans to make a bunch of measurements. Everything looked good so installed again. Sure went in easy without the hydraulic throw out bearing. :angry1: Kinda sucks because the scatter shield has to come off again. (4 hrs)
    - spent the rest of the afternoon looking for odds and ends. Throttle linkage, fuel system and stuff. Didn't find any of it. Stumbled onto the MSD 6AL...not sure what happened to it. Might be time to update. Everything else in the crate looked fine.
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    On the plus side, picked up a complete 401. Its in pieces but has a good set of 70 heads, 6" chevy rods, std crank and should make a decent little street motor.
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    What a jacked up couple of days. This will be a bit of a rant and could very well go in @86454K30 part rant tread.

    New "repop" accelerator cable is about 4" shorter than the original. Spoke with the vendor and he said it only worked with manifolds that are stock height? Strange that the factory cable has worked with 4 or 5 different aftermarket manifolds and and the new cable is still roughly an inch short to fit the original manifold. Guess the original cable will go back on for now.

    Replacement radiator and fan shroud do not fit each other. Radiator mounts to the car fine but is offset so that it sits 1" closer to the engine ( and the fan which should clearance it nicely). The mounting holes for the shroud are off by almost 2" to the ones on the radiator. Not bad since they are sold together.

    None of the gaskets for the firewall fit. They are all generally the right shape but not close enough to be useful.

    Then there's the TKO600 from SST. What a joke!!!
    -Directions are for a 55-57 Chevy. Asked the tech dept about AMC specific details and they will dig up a few pics here and there and his comment was they didn't sell enough to bother with specific directions.

    -Next problem is the bolt kits and "custom" fit brackets are junk.
    The bolts to hold the scatter shield to the block were too short.
    The top two bolts to attach the trans to the scatter shield are too long and the head doesn't fit the webbing on the trans. The interference is only on the last 1/8" of snugging the bolt down causing the socket to jam in the webbing. This happens as the bolt bottoms in the scatter shield. Talked to tech and they comment was they provided 1 allen head bolt for the 2 tight positions. As a plus, the allen head bolt is longer than the bolts that are already too long. Next comment was that these are older cars and usually modified, so part fitment is an issue. This is bullshit because the parts that do not fit are all supplied in the kit and mount to other parts supplied in the kit.

    -The hard line for the throw out bearing rubs the scatter shield (both provided in the kit)

    -With the trans mounted with the supplied parts, the top of the transmission hits the top of the transmission tunnel in several places. Should be an easy fix with spacers for the cross member.

    -To add complete insult to injury, I cracked the trans case removing the jacked up bolts!!!

    -By a direct bolt in kit, I guess SST means fits great as long as you're just planning to throw it in the trunk and not mess with it or just re-engineer it everything for them.

    Pretty much ready to beat out the windows, light it on fire and roll it down to the creek behind the house.
    Pretty bad when full length headers was the easiest mod...

    Rant over.

    & thanks to @Greg Ducato for the advice on the trans.
     
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    Decided it is taking too long figuring out all the wiring and as such from the service manuals so I'm gonna cheat a bit.
    Dug out a base 304 car from the barn for a visual aid. Car is plain as can be but about 99% original and been off the road since 1985.

    Should speed things up some. Getting old & forgetful is way over rated.
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    Work smarter, not harder!

    What’s the plan for this one?
     
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    I wish I had a barn full of that, what a gem!
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Short term, find a set of rollers that hold air for at least 24hrs...
    Kinda of a funny story how my Dad got the car.

    Both my folks are from England. After they jumped the pond my Dad decided he was an AMC person.
    They bought a new 73 Matador for my mom to drive while he drove a 68 conv 400 Firebird which he hated working on (still have both cars) & this was the beginning of the hoard....
    This Javelin was advertised in the local newspaper (late 70's) and was only a block or so away.

    Car was rough for the age.
    Front right had been in a small fender bender and beat back into shape with a hammer.
    Half the dash was pulled out for AC repairs (& still is) and it had a real bad miss.

    150 bucks later, this jem was his.
    Went with him to pick it up. He starts it, runs horribly.
    I noticed a crack (large enough for an 8 yr/old or so to see) in the dist. cap and opened my mouth...
    Dad hands me a bag from Chief's auto parts with a new cap in it and tells me to change it while he sat in the old Matador with the AC on...found out how important 1 wire at a time was when you didn't know what you're doing.

    He drove it until 85 pretty much untouched, decided to fix the fender and throw new paint on it.
    Right after that the trans retired and he started driving the 70 AMX in this post or a 69 AMX depending on which one ran at the time. Still have the 69 also.

    Plan for the car is to get it back on the road with a mild 401, overdrive trans and fuel injection.
    Motor is built and sitting on a stand.
    Trans is still up in the air.
    200R4 would fit without any body mods.
    700R4 would fit with a BFH.
    Have several 727's. With a Gear Vendor's overdrive should work well and fit the tunnel too...
    Fuel Injection will be a ProFlo4 most likely.

    Should make a decent driver and I want to do some road trips in it. Car has just over 100k and never really been out of the DFW area.
    That will change.
     
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    Scribbles Paul Premium Member

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    This is awesome, good back story and great goals. That was probably the make it or break it point at 8y/o, a lot of kids would have thrown in the towel lol.
     
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    Needs some slotted mags.
     
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    go away... :smile:
    You don't like the pacer wheels???
    Slots would be cool though.
    Probably just throw on the original AMC Magnum 500 want-to-be's.
     
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    She's a beaut Clark! :bow:
     
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