Adding a dovetail to my trailer.

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  1. coloradoblazers

    coloradoblazers 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    no idea on the weight, but they do have a spring assist.

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  2. ashman

    ashman It's not a bronco Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    Finally finished adding the dovetail.

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    Turned out pretty good. At some point I need to move the axles back a bit to increase the tongue weight went empty, put it works fine for now.
     
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    Looks good. I like the open design on the it.

    I wonder if you just made it a spread axle setup if that would be enough to help when empty. You would get a bit more tire scrub but it should be more stable wether empty or loaded.

    The last picture the tongue jack looks way to close to the ground for my comfort.
     
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  5. ashman

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    I'll look at different axle setups when the time comes. Need to just use it for awhile and see what I like/dont like for now.
    In the last pic the nissan was loaded too far forward, and my hitch was on the lowest setting. It'll be better for any longer distance
     
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    Just ad a third axle
     
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    Why the plates on the top(bottom) of the ramp? Is the idea you can back a vehicle back on top of them to move weight back once they’re stowed?
     
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    imiceman44 Hoarder extraordinaire Premium Member

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    Yes
     
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    I've been thinking pretty hard about doing something like this for a while now - need more details.

    How long was that dovetail you added?
    What angle did you put in?
    What are those helper springs from?

    I was thinking on my trailer if I left the rear axle in place and moved the front axle behind it, that'd give me the right balance and make for minimum work.
     
  10. ashman

    ashman It's not a bronco Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    Probably not a vehicle, since it would be way too far back for tongue weight, but maybe other things. :dunno: @imiceman44 is right, in that that is the design though. Mostly though, I wanted to reinforce the ramps a bit, and it just made sense to make them sit flat when folded up.

    Dovetail is 3' long.
    15* The ramps ended up being quite a bit steeper than that though. I think the ramps are at 28*. Way too steep for a car, but so far seems ok for SUV and taller vehicles.
    springs are liftgate springs out of an '89 blazer. :cool: You can buy springs that are specifically for this purpose from trailer supply places, but I had these laying around, so I used them.

    I didn't actually calculate how much further back I needed to move the axles, but I bet that would be too much. I'm guessing they only need to move back 6" to 1'. Swapping the front axle behind the rear would effectively move them back 2-1/2' to 3'. You only need 9-14% of the trailer weight as tongue weight.
     
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    K5 tailgate springs?

    It's not legal to drive with those jacks still mounted on the rear is it? That doesn't put the trailer over width?
     
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    Yup, k5 springs.

    The jacks don't make it so wide that anyone is going to pull me over, but the are removable if I want.
     

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