Ok after learning that they can come out of the housing..I was looking at my d44 in the front (trying to solve this vibe that is bad enough to almost knock off my passenger side door) and there seams to be a clean spot around the tube (the rest of the tube is black and grimmy) next to the housing and I was wondering if anyone can or has the lenth of the long tube side from the housing to some fixed point like the shock tower... Thanks in advance...mike