I know that this was discussed before, but I wasn't there for that discussion. I personally would like to see our group become a real club with membership in the Arizona State Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs. http://www.asa4wdc.org/ By being a member club we would be supporting our freedom to wheel in Arizona. The bigger asa4wdc is the louder our voice becomes when it comes to keeping trails open for our enjoyment. We don't have to be too formal about it. If no one want's to have the job of president or treasurer I would be happy to volunteer to take care of the necessary tasks. I don't think we would need to have monthly meetings or elections. Doing this would allow us to pay for the forum if Steve decides to start charging for it. I would also like to have club stickers, and maybe t-shirts. We can keep it very informal, and simple. Any input is welcome. <FORM METHOD=POST ACTION="http://coloradok5.com/forums/dopoll.php"><INPUT TYPE=HIDDEN NAME="pollname" VALUE="1024808507Greenblazer-AZ"> Arizona Trail Blazers Club <input type="radio" name="option" value="1" />Become a real club with membership in The Arizona State Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs, With limited organization. <input type="radio" name="option" value="2" />Become a real club with above, and with elected officers and meetings. <input type="radio" name="option" value="3" />No club, risk loosing this forum. <INPUT TYPE=Submit NAME=Submit VALUE="Submit vote" class="buttons"></form> As far as dues are concerened we could make them based on necessity. For example the cost of the forum divide by members and everybody chip in that amount. This could eliminate the need for a club bank account. We could make our decisions by voting on this forum so we wouldn't need to have meetings. Who's with me?