I went out with the club for Labor Day weekend. 2 days of wheelin. We did some prety good black diamond trails. As usual people were doubting the Sub. It did well on every trail and I even did some that the others wouldn't do. Here's a link to the pics: http://www.socalbigdawgs.com/ from the home page go to "Trip Reports", then to "8/31/02 Lake Silverwood & Holcomb Creek".