This is something that has been bothering me for a while now, and this thread has spawned off of a couple threads here and one on pirate. I turn 25 at the end of next month and recently married this past April. While we both want kids, to start in a year or two, I'm having some thoughts about it. We are waiting to get out of this area and be settled a little more, but that's another topic. I've been following the "fatherhood rawks" thread over on pirate the last couple of days. (here for those who don't travel over there) Reading everyone's posts has made me smile and look forward to having my chance of creating my own little monsters. At the same time though, I can't ignore everything going on in the world today, particularly to our east and south. Now I don't want this thread to turn into a political pissing match, but these issues are causing me to think twice about bringing another life into this world. I've always considered myself an "old soul", being more of mind of my preceding generations. It seems that, and I'm sure I'm not the only noticing, that our lives as we live them may change drastically in the next, oh say, 50 years. I'm not talking about flying cars or Taco Bell being the last resturant. With how PC everything must be these days, it seems that there may be no saving what was once the "American Way". It has been infested with people who have no respect for what built this country, yet have every intention to use what it has produced and built. I'm not saying that all of these people are bad, but they are essentially changing our system and turning our country into the ones that they are trying to leave. I don't want to get into all this too much as there are already threads about all these issues. I guess what I'm trying to get at is this. I'm afraid of what our great country is turning into. I'm not sure I want to deal with all the bs coming our way, (as if there is a choice) much less bring in another person knowing that there is a good possibility they are going to have it even worse in their lifetime. I don't know how long it will take to destroy what I feel many of us on this board view as America, but I want my offspring to enjoy this country for what it once was and hopefully will be in years to come. I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is. I guess just convince me one way or the other that making babies and having a family is worth it, no matter what the future may bring.