I would like to hear a few opinions from Dads and Grandads. My Grandson Elijah is turning 4, lately he has been going through a new phase. He does not want to accept his position as a "child" and feels he should have the same voice as an adult. He refuses to listen and has developed a mouth that just doesn't quit. He goes out of his way to do the wrong thing. Yesterday as I passed by him I said, Hello Elijah". He responded with, "What's up punk". It took all I had in me not to pop his head off at the socket. Needless to say he was disciplined and apologized, whereupon I did my best to explain what the word meant and why he couldn't use it. After a lot of tears and some post event consolation he was fine. His behavior comes and goes but there is not a day that goes by where he doesn't push his luck. I'm at a bit of a loss. I haven't hit him yet but I sure have been tempted. I'd rather save something like that for worst case scenarios. So far he's just been irritating. Now his dad left them when he was only 3 months old. That's another story entirely. I bring it up only because I think it bears on the conversation. No dad at home and an only child. Elijah is very active physically, not a quiet child. You can wrestle with him, run around and play, he just gets more amped up. He loves to verbally mouth off when his mood hits. His mom has used spanking, time out, engaging verbally, et. Not much seems to work. Any other Fathers been through something similar want to throw in some constructive advice? I'm all ears. Both my daughter and son didn't start this kind of behavior until much later. Age 4 seems unusual to me.