IT must be people's opinions on what serious off road use and abuse is. Because, I know with what I consider serious use, there is no way large Boggers will not break stock 1/2 ton drivetrain. Period, that is a fact. I dont understand why people continue to dispute this. "My 1/2 ton never breaks with my 39.5 Boggers. And I beat the hell out of it." No way! Maybe last a while with some alloy shafts, CTMs and a lightweight rig. But, even then. Ken H.