Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by TexasBlazerBoy, Mar 7, 2007.
Its about damn time.
Another pinko liberal Bill !
Attempting to take away more rights.
x2...Wow, going outside to have a smoke,...IN A BAR. WTF???
outright bans on smoking in privately owned buildings is just dumb. If a bar is a "smoking bar" and you don't want to be exposed... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. If a bar owner chooses to be smoke free... but you want to be able to smoke inside... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Not sure why all of this is even debated... common sense would work eleventy billion times better than all the legislation in the world.
It's a great idea. Just make designated smoking areas.
They have the same legislation already in effect here, and the bars are suddenly way nicer to go to, heck, even walking down whyte ave you don't get smogged out with cigarette smoke every few seconds...
The only place you can technically smoke now is in your own home / yard, and on streets where there isn't a lot of pedestrian traffic.
Lots of smokers real up in arms about it, but they got used to it pretty quick, and a lot actually quit becuase of it too, which was the ultimate bonus...
They banned smoking in public buildings (includes restaurants, malls, etc) in my hometown. While I HATE the government just getting bigger and bigger and regulating more and more, I have to say its nice going into a restaurant and not having to smell cigarettes.
I agree and vote for smoking bans in public places. Why should I be involuntarily exposed to cigarette smoke if I want to go to a bar or restaurant? We just passed a bill here in Northeast Ohio banning smoking in all public buildings. I'm loving it.
I personally know two people who have quit smoking as a result of this ban and it's been nothing but a good thing overall.
Eventually , they will ban all smoking ........ and people will still die from the smoke of forest fires coming soon in the Southwest . Leaves are leaves
I'm no fan of regulation either, but apparently most people are too dumb to "get" common sense.
I thought the ban was going to be terrible when they did it in the city, but it seems to have made bars (and restaraunts) much more pleasant. I don't know if there's been a study done, but I'd be willing to bet the smoking ban has helped business after the initial "I refuse to go now because I smoke" boycott.
Incorrect logic. The real question is: why should someone not be able to smoke on PRIVATELY OWNED land. This isn't a place you have a right to go. Its not really that much different from going over to a friends house. If the government is going to ban smoking (never happen, they like the tax money waaaaaay to much!) and add it to the list of illicit drugs.... that would be one thing... but they haven't. Its still a 100% legal product, assuming you are of-age.
If a bar wants to advertise itself as a "smoking bar"... they should be able to. If you want to be smoke free, you should be able to do that also. Paying customers / the free market will determine which will prosper/fail. Government is not needed.... we already have the government telling us what to do on our own property enough.
I've never smoked a single cigarette. I'm not pro-smoking. I am pro-property rights though. If we are going to go down the "well, people are dumb... and this is for their own good" line of reasoning... its probably time to ban private transportation (ie cars)... because 40,000 people a year die using them incorrectly. I say we ban all cars in public areas. On your own private property, they are ok (but not at any business open to the public!)... but you can't use them anywhere else... you're putting peoples lives in danger when you do.
Well said jek
People can make this as political as they want. Comments such as Pinko bla, bla,bla and to much goverment whatever BS which sometimes I do agree with.
The only thing I ask for is a vote, my chance to express how I feel about it, to have my say so in where or where not you can smoke.
Let your state vote on it and see who gets what they want. Majority wins
My vote would be to ban smoking all public places.
People actully have the right to not inhale second hand smoke. They also have the option to remove themselves from their enviroment or change their enviroment(see above, voting=majority rules)
while I am not a smoker, and in fact cant stand the smell of smoke or being anywhere around it. I can see where this law is helpful like in bars and bowling alleys and whatnot to keep from getting smogged out. But there are also the select few asshats that light up anywhere they want to, I have had poeple do it in my truck, in my house in front of me, people standing I kid you not 5 inches from my face at a concert, and the list goes on, and for this reason I like the outlook of this law. ***But*** like someone has already mentioned, people just need to grow some nuts and some common sense. Its sad that it took the government(pinko lib socialists) telling us we cant do something instead of people realizing *lightbulb*hey I want to smoke, but maybe I shouldnt since there are people on all sides of me who dont like cig smoke...or hey I want to light up while watching a doctor preform surgery...hey I bet I can bowl, eat, watch a movie, etc and smoke at the same time...I am too impatient for Darwin.
So just because smoking is legal, the fact that it's a public health hazard should be ignored? I don't think that non-smokers who want to eat out should have to go to McDonald's in order to breathe fresh air (that's just robbing Peter to pay Paul, since their food is a health hazard in itself). We're a looooong way from banning smoking altogether, but the bans are a step in the right direction in my humble opinion.
Private property is private property, regardless if its a place of business or not. Banning smoking in actual publicly owned places sounds like a good idea to me. However, they need to leave private businesses alone.
So if they passed a law, you wouldn't have a problem if they banned all vehicles over 30 years old off the public streets because its pollution-causing engine. You can have them for parades or off-the-road events only.
Take a class in basic economics to better understand what's being said here.
I am sure it is not the point you are trying to make. My truck is not my DD so what then................all I need it for is to "Play in"
I just want to make sure I have this right:
Ban smoking in bars and resturants any assembly type occupancy were you invite the masses in, but leave Joe Blow that owns a trucking company and his office out of the deal?
I could live with that...........
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