Well now I can finally say I went 4 wheeling. Got stuck in 2 foot of good old Oklahoma clay. Took 1.5 hours to clear myself out of that one. funny thing was I just wanted to turn around and did not see the mud until to late. It had about 1 inch on dry mud on top just looked like a dried out mudhole. Note to self: Hi lift jacks are great, and open diffs are not.