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I dunno if the garage/shop is still there or not. It wasn't built as strong as the house was as far as foundation and stuff. The spendy stuff was in there, two or three newish sleds, and a brand new side by side.

That was 6 acres of pristine riverfront, well treed and landscaped. there was a 6 foot high stone dike probably 12-15 feet wide all along the river's edge. clearly that wasn't enough this time.
That’s unreal.

Where did the picture come from?
 

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That's Stan's neighbor Mark that took both pics. You want to hear about shit luck...

Mark's cabin burnt down at the end of summer, maybe mid summer? I remember wondering how his cabin fire didn't light the whole area on fire back when BC was so dry. He was about 70% through the rebuild when these rains/floods hit. His place is as focked over as Stan's now. Anyways, there must be a bit of dry land somewhere on Mark's property to get those pics...

My buddy Stan hasn't been able to get to his cabin in person yet. I think Mark was up there when it all went down, and is probably stuck in the area now.
 

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Just heard from my buddy Stan. i guess the road there is open now and they got up there today. The garage is still there, but the foundation is blown out on the one side. They got one quad and the Side by Side out of the garage. The river now runs between the garage and the cabin. The Cabin is on it's own little island now.
 

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Like fock Eh
 

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Saying more rain...
 

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Holly crap Rene!

I’ve camped there quite a few times when we lived in BC. One of favourite spots to go. I can see why a guy would want a spot there to call their own. What a shitty deal for all of them.
 

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We are pretty screwed over on the island, but nowhere near what happened to the interior. Towns like Lytton and Merritt faught fires all summer and now are completely underwater. Whole towns basically gone, waste water facilities all down and no safe drinking water. I'm happy to hear your mom is going to be hoping on a plane and getting over there, although I know that's not ideal and must cause some worry. My thoughts go out to stan and his family, assuming that's his property by the river, and to your family as well Dean. I wish I was closer so I could offer some actual help as I'm a lucky one who's property took damage, but not like that...

There hasn't been gas here in a few days, most stations all empty. The main highway up Island is starting to escort tankers over , and they have issued a 30L maximums at the pump... I saw a guy filling up plastic water jugs with gas at one point... The grocery stores are baron really. People went and bought everything in sight FFS... All meats are gone, eggs, and staples..

Me and the wife were trapped on our main road, as all the roads out of the woods where we live, were closed and flooded. Power wasnt out too long, about 30 hours and then on and off for another half day. Made me absolutely realize I'm buying the next 4x4 project when I get back to work in the new year... It may actually be a saviour to the ten acres me and my neighbors share if shit goes south worse than that and emergency trips into town are needed.... And its not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, unfortunately.
 

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That's Stan's neighbor Mark that took both pics. You want to hear about shit luck...

Mark's cabin burnt down at the end of summer, maybe mid summer? I remember wondering how his cabin fire didn't light the whole area on fire back when BC was so dry. He was about 70% through the rebuild when these rains/floods hit. His place is as focked over as Stan's now. Anyways, there must be a bit of dry land somewhere on Mark's property to get those pics...

My buddy Stan hasn't been able to get to his cabin in person yet. I think Mark was up there when it all went down, and is probably stuck in the area now.
It's times like this that I feel it's a blessing I don't have the money to have these kinds of problems :doah:
I am lucky I have a home and I did a lot of research on flooding before I closed on my house.
I am next a year round creek that's a salmon route so I know to expect possible flooding but for my house to flood, all of the city will have to be under water.
 

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Oh man, during me writing my post answers were given. Man... I hope they are all finding a way through Rene.
 

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that video was taken today i beleive... insane how much water is left standing
 

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Yeah they’re saying full on round two. I sure hope you guys are ok
 

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That whole area, the Sumas prairie, used to be Sumas lake. They drained and diked it a hundred years ago to create that farmland. I think it really still wants to be a lake.
 

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That whole area, the Sumas prairie, used to be Sumas lake. They drained and diked it a hundred years ago to create that farmland. I think it really still wants to be a lake.
holy crap... that makes alot of sense.
 

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Dutch Canadians, time to start carving wood shoes.
I'm a Dutch Canadian, I think a boat would be better.

critically they also need to add some redundancy as far as the pumping station in Abbotsford. Things got pretty tense when it became abundantly clear that if that station was overwhelmed or suffered any failure "Lake Sumas" would exist again in all it's former glory.
 

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I'm a Dutch Canadian, I think a boat would be better.

critically they also need to add some redundancy as far as the pumping station in Abbotsford. Things got pretty tense when it became abundantly clear that if that station was overwhelmed or suffered any failure "Lake Sumas" would exist again in all it's former glory.
Now that's definitely something I would never consider, anything that would need constant attention is a no go for me

Where I live, the only reason it sometimes floods is when the water doesn't evacuate fast enough, typical flash flood.
It's usually a few hours after it stops raining that all the water is gone
 

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That whole area, the Sumas prairie, used to be Sumas lake. They drained and diked it a hundred years ago to create that farmland. I think it really still wants to be a lake.
It's pretty slow at work today and because of that I did some surfing on this. Climate change or not, that's a figgen lake they drained. Stands to reason despite man's best efforts if mother nature wants it to be a lake it's gonna be a lake.

To give a sense of scale how much pumping they need to keep that area from being a lake the main pump station in Abbotsford is the second largest pump station in north America. The largest is in New Orleans.

The fact that the lake was part of the Sumas tribe (first nation people) that the land was not given back to them after the lake drained also kind of provides a certain level of irony. Had the tribe been able to have a say in the matter it probably never would have been drained in the first place.

Further reading also found that the alarm bells have been ringing that this problem was going to happen but rather than address it local and federal (or the crown for our Canucks) efforts have been pushing to go carbon neutral. Dollars spent elsewhere could have been spent on fortification of the existing drainage network and pumps. No difference than the USA in that regard, once it get to the government to address politics win over logic and reason.

The problem is since the lake got drained 100 years ago there's a century worth of human investment by the families that built farms on the land. Do you abandon the land and let the lake reform while having to reroute major transportation arteries around it? Plus displacing the farms and loosing some of the most productive land in Canada.

I'm betting they won't let it return to it's original form but they need some radical changes in how they can handle the worst case scenario.

I'm really sorry for everyone effected by it.

Oh, almost missed this. It's not due to climate change. Despite what the NY Times wants to call it, the root cause is squarely on the fact this land was originally a lake in the first place. Additional severe weather don't help but this is not a climate change issue. Most of what I read from Canadian news sources came back to the man made cause.
 
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