I never saw these in all the links posted earlier. Here is a link to some pics of Stephen at Supercrawl. Looks like he had one hell of a ride. Good Job again Stephen for that hardcore R&D. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.4x4wire.com/cgi-bin/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=trailshots/4x4_Trailshots/Competitions/UROC/SuperCrawl&img=72 Click on the thumbs to see larger pics. Check pages 8 and 9 for more photos.