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Fuel injection or lockers....serious question.

Vombrown

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OK so I have about 3k coming from the sale of a vehicle that the girlfriend isn't going to be party to so I have a little extra funds for the project truck. I can't afford to get both at the same time so I'm asking the group. Fitech fuel injection or OX lockers? Which would you get first? It would be later this summer before I can afford to get the other.

Fitech fuel injection system is around 1,000.00
OX lockers are about 1200 each. So 2400 for the pair.

Obviously I don't NEED either. The 454 has a great running carb on it and the axles already have a limited slip....so this is purely a want situation.
 
If you are stalling all the time while crawling I vote fitech.
 
Daily driver or play toy?

I understand how desirable selectable lockers are but if this is a play toy, why not a Detroit in the rear.
 
Sorry, selectable lockers only. Full detroits and Ice/snow do NOT play well together. This is a driver/ part time toy. I thought about doing a selectable in the rear then something else in the front that could surely be full time. I climb and tow in ice and snow.
 
OK so I have about 3k coming from the sale of a vehicle that the girlfriend isn't going to be party to so I have a little extra funds for the project truck. I can't afford to get both at the same time so I'm asking the group. Fitech fuel injection or OX lockers? Which would you get first? It would be later this summer before I can afford to get the other.

Fitech fuel injection system is around 1,000.00
OX lockers are about 1200 each. So 2400 for the pair.

Obviously I don't NEED either. The 454 has a great running carb on it and the axles already have a limited slip....so this is purely a want situation.
I guess a lot of people don't get a build on ck5 that is not for crawling/ play.
I vote for the locker now it will help with winter traction.
Later when you get more money you can add the fitech.
Axles are out now easier to work on.
Fitech can easily be done with the engine in the bay
 
ox lockers 14ff ? ? didnt know they had them .

i played offroad with 2 trucks with carbs . never again . . efi all the way
 
I guess a lot of people don't get a build on ck5 that is not for crawling/ play.

That's a pretty broad statement considering that with 76k+ members everybody doesn't know everything about everybody and his original post made no mention of vehicle purpose.
 
I think I could squeeze the Fitech and a rear OX under budget and just wait on the front locker for now.
I vote for this. The fuel injection will be something that will grow on you. And I agree with you about the rear locker for ice. Selectable should be sweet!
 
I would do lockers first. I ran the K5 for years with a carb and did all I wanted with it; the carb never held me back. Loved having the lockers tho.
 
Driver, and occasional play time?

EFI all the way. You will see, feel, and appreciate the EFI every time you start and drive the truck. Can that be said of lockers? I think not.

While there is no substitute for traction devices, I'm just looking at it from the "what is going to get used more" standpoint.

Although if possible, why not just go with factory TBI? I'm still more partial to factory stuff than aftermarket, no matter how well the aftermarket seems to work.
 
I vote for this. The fuel injection will be something that will grow on you. And I agree with you about the rear locker for ice. Selectable should be sweet!
@Vombrown The old hippie is right

Rear locker and FI based on your build and stated purpose.
 
First off the track lock that came in Ford's is junk. Wears out very fast. No one puts additive in them. I truly doubt you have one in front.

You have said many times your not a crawler. So given that, I would put an ox in the front end. A front locker will do more to help off road than a rear.

Second inject it.

Third I would put an Eaton tru trac in the rear.
 
Driver, and occasional play time?

EFI all the way. You will see, feel, and appreciate the EFI every time you start and drive the truck. Can that be said of lockers? I think not.

While there is no substitute for traction devices, I'm just looking at it from the "what is going to get used more" standpoint.

Although if possible, why not just go with factory TBI? I'm still more partial to factory stuff than aftermarket, no matter how well the aftermarket seems to work.

I was never impressed with the factory TBI. For me it would be a last resort I guess. Just too much going on and not enough tune ability. Even the lower performance aftermarket setups have super ceded the old TBI. Plus there is a lot less wiring and nonsense. I mean a factory setup will be used stuff and no guarantee that it will even work correctly to begin with. The Fitech setup is looking like the easiest performance based FI for the money. I know there are others and I might explore those as well but for now I can see no downside of the Fitech setup other than price which I am willing to pay.
 
That's a pretty broad statement considering that with 76k+ members everybody doesn't know everything about everybody and his original post made no mention of vehicle purpose.
Sorry but in every post he has about his project he still gets the same comments, I notice he didn't mention it in this post.
Sorry for the broad comment.
 
fitech is awesome once you learn to tune it, i say this because if not used to it it is a learning experience but well worth it. You tune a carb with accelerator pumps, jets, ect. In fitech its electrically controlled.
get the bigger unit that is over the hp needs of your rig. not just what will run it.
 
I was never impressed with the factory TBI. For me it would be a last resort I guess. Just too much going on and not enough tune ability. Even the lower performance aftermarket setups have super ceded the old TBI. Plus there is a lot less wiring and nonsense. I mean a factory setup will be used stuff and no guarantee that it will even work correctly to begin with. The Fitech setup is looking like the easiest performance based FI for the money. I know there are others and I might explore those as well but for now I can see no downside of the Fitech setup other than price which I am willing to pay.

Eh...if something goes wrong, where do you get parts? TBI was designed, tested, and proven by the OEM, no aftermarket manufacturer can afford to invest anywhere near what GM did.

Factory EFI has been proven over decades to be robust and reliable. Any of the aftermarket stuff has what, maybe a few years at best now, since they keep changing them? My distributor is 1988, I've replaced the pickup and coil, but those only failed after ~15 years of use. Injectors lasted nearly as long. All the wiring is original 1988. IAC, TPS, MAT, MAF, probably some I'm forgetting.

There is no more simplicity with the aftermarket setups IMO, because to get the same results, you have to have the same components. You might make things *cleaner* by putting everything in the same housing, but the same operations have to be completed, the same general sensors have to be used, unless you go with something like Ramjet where they remove O2 sensor input, which doesn't really make things much easier IMO.

Tuning is probably one advantage aftermarket has, especially considering any that are stock with a wideband O2. That really does come into play if you are modifying things with TBI, as tuning IS more difficult. And I will definitely concede that point. But generally, up to this point, simplicity comes at the cost of function or performance...with the wideband O2 setups, that may have changed.

Most of the more modern aftermarket setups do seem to work pretty well, but time will tell if they are going to last I suppose. At some point there will be diminishing returns for the aftermarket to make this stuff as the LS swaps continue to take larger chunks (consumers) out of the SBC/BBC market.
 
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