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Gun guru gone, Jeff Cooper

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by GotLabs, Sep 26, 2006.

  1. GotLabs

    GotLabs 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Jul 30, 2005
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    Transient, USA
  2. pauly383

    pauly383 Daddy383 Staff Member Moderator

    Jul 22, 2001
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    They played a recent interview with him last night on Cam & Company , gotta say I loved it . The insight into the America we lost is a good listen , the ROTC , the Services , how he joined for the free ammo since he was a shooter , how we lost discipline since not too many people are marksmen anymore .

    Men like him are few and far between .
  3. chalet2506

    chalet2506 CK5 Huge Member Premium Member

    May 9, 2006
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    "Coopers Corner" was the first thing I read whenever I got Guns and Ammo in the mailbox. In fact, it's about the only thing I missed about it once I let my subscription lapse.
  4. 4by4bygod

    4by4bygod 1/2 ton status

    Nov 13, 2003
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    We've lost another good one..

    Anyone ever read his book " to ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth"?

    The foreward has some interesting insights on the mindset needed to fight crime and hijackings, and how the modern american ( liberal) is ill equipped to do so.. I'll dig up my copy of it and post it up if you guys want. very pertinent to the debates of today..

  5. TSGB

    TSGB 1 ton status

    Apr 22, 2002
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    Never heard of the fellow. That would be pretty cool!
  6. Cricket

    Cricket 3/4 ton status

    Nov 29, 2004
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    John Dean "Jeff" Cooper (10 May 1920 - 25 September 2006) [1] is recognized as the father of what is commonly known as "The Modern Technique" of handgun shooting, and considered by many to be the world's foremost expert on the use and history of small arms.

    Born John Dean Cooper, but known to his friends as "Jeff", Cooper was a former Marine Lt. Colonel who served in World War II and in Southeast Asia during the Korean War. In addition to his expertise in firearms, he was a history instructor, philosopher, adventurer, and author. He is also known as "the Guru."

    In 1976 Cooper founded the American Pistol Institute (API, also known as "Gunsite") in northern Arizona to train law enforcement and military personnel, as well as law-abiding civilians. He sold the firm in 1989 but continued living on the ranch. He was well-known for his cogent and thoroughly researched advocacy of large caliber handguns for personal defense, especially the 1911 Colt.

    * 1 The Modern Technique
    * 2 Combat Mindset
    * 3 Firearms safety
    * 4 The Queen of personal weapons
    * 5 Other contributions
    * 6 External links


    The Modern Technique

    Cooper's modern technique defines pragmatic use of the pistol for personal protection. The modern technique emphasizes two-handed shooting using the Weaver stance, replacing the once-prevalent one-handed shooting. The five elements of the modern technique are:

    * A large-caliber handgun, preferably a semi-auto pistol.
    * The Weaver stance;
    * Flash sight picture;
    * Compressed breath;
    * Surprise break (of the trigger)

    Cooper favors the Colt M1911 and its variants. There are several conditions of readiness in which such a weapon can be carried. Cooper promulgated the following terms:

    * Condition One: A round chambered, hammer cocked, safety on;
    * Condition Two: A round chambered, hammer down;
    * Condition Three: Chamber empty.
    * Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine.

    Some of these configurations are safer than others (for instance, a single action pistol without a firing pin safety ought never be carried in Condition 2) while others are quicker to access (condition 1). In the interest of consistent training, most agencies that issue the 1911 specify the condition in which it is to be carried as a matter of local doctrine.

    Combat Mindset

    The most important means of surviving a lethal confrontation is, according to Cooper, neither the weapon nor the martial skills. The primary tool is the combat mindset, set forth in Principles of Personal Defense.

    In the chapter on awareness, Cooper explains a simple system to differentiate states mindset:

    * White - Relaxed, unaware, and unprepared. If attacked in this state the only thing that may save you is the inadequacy and ineptitude of your attacker. When confronted by something nasty your reaction will probably be, "Oh my God! This can't be happening to me."

    * Yellow - Relaxed alertness. No specific threat situation. Your mindset is that "today could be the day I may have to defend myself." There is no specific threat but you are aware that the world is an unfriendly place and that you are prepared to do something if necessary. You use your eyes and ears, and your carriage says "I am alert." You don't have to be armed in this state but if you are armed you should be in yellow. When confronted by something nasty your reaction will probably be, "I thought this might happen some day." You can not live in this state indefinitely, sleep and concentrating on specific tasks (reading a good book) reset you to White.

    * Orange - Specific alert. Something not quite right has gotten your attention and you shift your primary focus to that thing. Something is "wrong" with a person or object. Your mindset is that "I may have to shoot that person." In orange you set a fight trigger: "If that goblin does "x", I will need to "stop" them." You check that you are prepared for action. Your pistol is usually holstered in this state.

    * Red - The fight trigger has happened. You are now in action.

    Some non-Cooper sources list a "Condition Black" as actively engaged in combat but this is an unnecessary step and is not in keeping with the mindset definitions.

    Similar system have been use in some military and police organizations but their conditions relate to a level of danger rather than mindset.

    Firearms safety

    Cooper advocates four basic rules of gun safety [2]:

    1. All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.

    2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (For those who insist that this particular gun is unloaded, see Rule 1.)

    3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of negligent discharges.

    4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.

    The Queen of personal weapons

    Cooper is best known for his revolutionary work in pistol training, but he favors the rifle.

    Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons.
    —Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

    The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized.

    The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.

    —Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

    In the early 1980s, Cooper published an article describing his ideal of a general-purpose rifle, which he dubbed a Scout rifle. In the late 1990s, Steyr-Mannlicher produced a rifle to his "Scout" specifications, with Cooper's oversight during the engineering & manufacturing process. While not a sales success, Cooper considered the Steyr Scout "perfect" and often made the point that "I've got mine!"

    Other contributions

    In the 1960s he coined the term hoplophobia, an irrational fear of weapons.

    In addition to his books on firearms and self defense, Cooper has written several books recounting his life adventures plus essays and short stories, including Fire Works (1980), Another Country: Personal Adventures of the Twentieth Century (1992); To Ride, Shoot Straight and Speak the Truth (1998); and C Stories (2004). His daughter Lindy Wisdom published a biography, Jeff Cooper: the Soul and the Spirit (1996).

    Cooper is also the world's foremost authority on big game hunting with the pistol. In 1965's "Complete Book of Shooting", he listed the five top pistol trophies as: European wild boar (Eurasia), Roosevelt elk (North America), jaguar (South America), saltwater crocodile (Australia-Oceania), and the gorilla (Africa). Of the latter he says, "Skipping the giants and the traditional, I'll choose the gorilla. ... If you threaten his group he will charge, and a charging gorilla is a fearful spectacle. To stand your ground with a handgun and flatten him at 15 feet is man's work."

    A complete bibliography of his writings beginning in 1947 is available at The Jeff Cooper Bibliography Project

    He is also the Founding President and Honorary Lifetime Chairman of the International Practical Shooting Confederation.

    External links

    * http://www.frfrogspad.com/cooper.htm
    * http://dvc.org.uk/jeff/
    * Paladin Press Publisher of Principles of Personal Defense, The Art of the Rifle and several other referenced books
    * Handgun conditions of readiness
  7. 4by4bygod

    4by4bygod 1/2 ton status

    Nov 13, 2003
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    This chapter could have been written today

    From Jeff Cooper's "To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth" published in 1988:

    Hold! Enough!

    Why do you suppose the creeps of this world have declared open season on americans?

    Are we not the posterity of patrick henry, and george washington, and nathan hale, and buck travis, and george custer, and teddy roosevelt, and goerge patton?

    How do they dare?

    We seemed to have changed, and not for the better. The fathers won the country with sweat and blood. the soons seem to think that gives them a free ticket to the fat life - A life without fighting.

    Now where do you suppose the idea arose that a man can make it without fighting? It was certainly not prevalent in the 1920's or 1930's. It is new, but it is now almost universal..And it is SICK..It delivers the soft to the wicked. It makes the american the laughingstock of the age.

    The issue is "hijacking" - Air piracy. it is now intolerable, and it promises to get worse. We wring our hands. we look for "solutions" in concepts and gadgets, but what we need is WILL.

    The goblins do not hijack El Al..not anymore..If the Shi'ites wanted their people back from israeli POW camps, their obvious target was an israeli airplane, one might suppose. But they hit TWA instead. Why? because they believe - correctly - that americans will not fight, and that - also correctly- americans will grovel at the possibility that other americans might be killed. And they further believe that by savaging a prisoner to death they will intimidate, rather than enrage the american public.

    No, they did not try El Al. As cowards, they fear the israelis. But they do not fear the americans. They know the americans will not do anything but whimper.

    how in the name of John Hancock did we come to this disgusting pass!

    For whatever my opinion is worth, the root of the problem is the demise of the nuclear family. Morals and ethics are taught at the mothers knee, and consolidated around the family dinner table. When mother is otherwise occupied in the marketplace, and dinner is taken in front of the tube, there can be no inculcation of righteousness in a developing personality.

    See now, over the portals of our acadamies are engraved the words " duty - honor - country"..How many people under the age of forty can you name who can even define those words? As generatin follows generation, this situation degenerates. If daddy has no idea what honor means, how can he explain it to junior, even if circumstances lend themselves to it - which, in most cases, they no longer do.

    The press, academe, and the law enforcement establishment preach: Do not fight back!. You may be hurt.

    Of course you may be hurt. You may be killed. As my daughter put it just last week: " Big deal.. you expect to live forever"?

    The only honorable response to violence is counterviolence To surrender to extortion is a greater sin than extortion, in that it breeds and feeds the very act it seeks to avoid.

    Fifty years ago, young people were made to understand - around the dinner table- that strife was a part of life, that they might well encounter it, and that it would then be their duty to face it without blinking, - ready, willing and able to use force quickly and expertly if necessary.

    Boys were taught to shoot and use their hands, and girls wer taught to expect that in their men. And that society was infinitley safer and more serene than what we have now. Mugging, rape, piracy, and terrorism ( in the sense of the victimization of the uninvolved) were so rare as to be sensational. In that society it would have been both futile and ridiculous for two punks to aasume physical command of 159 people. They would have been quikly killed.

    The idea that intended victims can overcome armed bandits is not fanciful. some years ago two pirates attempted to take over an air iberia flight from madrid to rome. The passengers killed them, the stewardesses covered them up with blankets, and opened the bar. The flight arrived on schedule.

    More recently a troll siezed a girl in a philippine bank, doused her with gasoline, and threatened to burn her if he was not given all the ready money. The customers not only beat him to death, they actually dismembered him. it can be done!

    Is it too late for america to find its way back to an honorable social order - one in which the goblins of the world will respect us as much as they respect israel? Perhaps it is, but let us hope not.

    The current series of disasters has pressed us hard. The mood of the times is anger, fully justified. but anger is of no use to the soft, and the majority of our mentors are far too flabbly to serve us well. The requisite hardness of spirit must come, unfortunately,from generatins which have no evident interest in courage, and no pride in victory. But the latent nobility of the human soul has not vanished..it is simply buried. let's unearth it. Something has got to be done.. let's do it!

    The rest of this book is very good. go buy it, then show it to your liberal friends.. :D

  8. grimjaw

    grimjaw 1/2 ton status

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    Based purely on the posted excerpt, I just bought a copy of Jeff Cooper's "To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth". Sounds like a book that should be required reading in the schools.


    Last week I bought "Internal Combustion: How Corporations and Governments Addicted the World to Oil and Derailed the Alternatives" by Edwin Black.

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