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Has anyone done this...

Well, clearly socially unacceptable and very illegal and probation aren't working if people are stealing trucks. Might I suggest, smoke more weed and do some ****ing!!

I thought Sweden and Denmark were both weed capitals of the world.

Oh and get a 4th amendment. :D

All in fun, sorry about your truck.


Weed Capital, you must mean Amsterdam in the Netherlands. The mayor is going to make it illegal for all foreigners to purchase/consume marijuana in Amsterdam.

Don't retire here! Not a good choice. Trust me.

4th Amendment in Sweden, won't ever happen!:haha:
 
Weed Capital, you must mean Amsterdam in the Netherlands. The mayor is going to make it illegal for all foreigners to purchase/consume marijuana in Amsterdam.

Don't retire here! Not a good choice. Trust me.

4th Amendment in Sweden, won't ever happen!:haha:
Yeah I think the only place with legal drugs now is Denmark
 
A little off topic, but how are the trails there? Do you just have that for the snow, or can you actually get off-road and have some fun with it? I know that many countries are very strict on where you can and can't drive, and I know, much like you, it's hard to hide a bright colored truck in the trees! Many of the places we used to go in California are closed to vehicles now, and more to come, I'm sure. I know there's some beautiful country there, just wondering if you can actually get out and enjoy that rig.

One thing to remember regarding your vandals: No matter what you do to safeguard your property, they will see it as a challenge to mess it up and break it. Honestly, if they want to screw with it, there are so many things to do that will cost you a lot of money to fix that you just can't win. Lock one hub. Sand in your breather tubes, sugar in the gas tank, the list goes on forever....The more obvious to them that you don't want it vandalized, the more they will try to defeat what you have done. Just do what you can to not draw attention to it, and hope for the best. Easier said than done, I know....


Sweden loves it's natural beauty. And unless you own the property you have zero rights on removing anything or digging. No destruction at all. They do have a law that allows anyone to utilize the forest for backpacking and camping. Even if it is owned property.

"Allemansrätten"

In English.

The right of public access is a right for all people to travel over private land in nature, to temporarily reside there and, for example, pick berries, mushrooms and some other plants. The right is followed by demands for consideration and care about nature and wildlife, landowners and other people. The word mainly refers to the law as it appears in Norway , Sweden , Finland and Iceland , even if similar rights exist in sparsely populated areas in other parts of the world. The law has a slightly different design and meaning in each country.

In recent years, the right of universal suffrage has been explicitly written into the law in Sweden and Norway, but also in these countries the rules are largely based on customary law and a contradictory interpretation of certain legal rules that specify what is forbidden; Contradictory interpretation then means that what is not prohibited is allowed. The content of the public right is also shaped by prejudicial judgments. There are relatively few such judgments, so many conflicts between landowners and users of the public right have their basis in obscurity about what exactly the public right covers and what falls outside.

In countries without public rights, there are usually areas in state or municipal ownership where you can walk freely, such as national parks . These are primarily located in sparsely populated areas. There are usually designated hiking trails with marked tent sites. There is a network of European leaders crossing Europe.

As for offroading and 4-wheeling. They have designated spots in the country. You absolutely cannot just start tearing up land and offroading where you want, huge fines and possible jail time will be in your future.


4 wheeling laws.

Sweden has an overall ban on off-road driving on bare, snow-free ground. The ban can be found in the Off-Road Driving Act and Off-Road Driving Ordinance, intended to safeguard nature.

The ban, similarly, pertains to landowners themselves. A landowner is not allowed to drive off road on his or her own land and at the same time cannot give anyone else the permission to do so. However, off-road driving for the purpose of agriculture or forestry, is permissible.

Ruts and furrows take a long time to heal
Off-road driving damages soil, leading to ruts, impaired root systems, compacted soil, increased erosion and sedimentation in waterways. Deep wheel-tracks in wetlands can drain the wetland, damage and disturb the natural habitat for plants and animals. In certain environments such as above the tree-line on mountains and ground rich on lichens, ruts can be visible for a long time since it takes a long time for the plants in those environments to grow back. Off-road driving is equally problematic for waterways. The bottom structure can be damaged and also cause muddiness that can harm aquatic plants and animals.

Off-road driving can be disturbing for animals and people
The noise from an ATV disturb wild animals. They are extra sensitive to disturbances in spring and early summer when the animals have their newborns. People wanting peace, silence and tranquility, can also feel distressed by the noise of a vehicle in nature where silence is expected.

What does off-road terrain mean?
In legal terms, off-road terrain means virtually all unpaved ground. In addition to forest and land, off-road terrain also includes parks, lawns, paths, jogging tracks and hiking trails.

Jogging tracks and hiking trails generally do not have signs, prohibiting driving. This is not required, since according to the Off-Road Driving Act, it is forbidden to use motor vehicles there, as well as on all other unpaved ground.

Exemptions from the ban
In addition to off-road driving directly associated with agriculture or forestry, there are some additional exceptions to the Act’s general prohibition. Such exceptions include driving under the following circumstances:

  • For various sorts of engineering work for public utilities
  • For civil protection and in cases of illness
  • When retrieving bear, moose, deer or wild boar after hunting
  • When working with reindeer husbandry, to a certain extent
  • When working in parks and recreational areas
  • In specially organized and permitted racing or practice areas
The county administrative board (Länsstyrelsen) has the authority to decide on other exceptions in individual cases, such as for car parking during sport competitions or other arrangements.
 
So basically "mudding" will never happen in a legal sense. That is why all of my questions are based around normal around town cruising.
 
Sweden has been overrun with mooslim "refugees"... Crime, particularly rape, has gone through the roof. Sweden needs the Second Amendment.
 
Sweden has been overrun with mooslim "refugees"... Crime, particularly rape, has gone through the roof. Sweden needs the Second Amendment.

It's true. Can't deny that. You don't have freedom of speech or expression here either. If you say anything remotely offensive, hateful or make generalization about anything that has to do with "refugees" it's a criminal charge. Also you can't demonstrate without a "permit" from the city council, that is also a criminal charge. I live in the twilight zone. Of course nowhere is perfect. We don't have to worry about being homeless here, or money for food, and school shootings don't happen. Dental care for kids is covered free of charge until 22 years old. Routine health care is super cheap, like 10 dollars to see a Doctor. If you are smart and do good in school you can get a free University Education and money from the Government to cover your living costs while you attend. Everything is a trade off from one country to the next.
 
See how fun Sweden is? :haha::rotfl:
Yeah, I guess I'll quit complaining about closing trails and too much government regulation! You can't even drive on your own land, that's a real bitch...In reality, most of us do stick to the established routes here, but there are a lot of them, especially in the west, where mining demanded some sort of access to almost every area of every mountain range and canyon. What you call an established route is kind of open to the imagination, especially on private property. Our national and state parks are the most restrictive of all as far as off road driving, with it being prohibited except on maintained dirt or gravel roads in most cases. Going off the route in California will net you a $300 citation from the Bureau of Land Management as of about 10 years ago. Probably more like $500 now. Don't ask how I know. Obviously, I learned my lesson.

Green light on the snow-covered ground, though...so get some mud terrains on that K-5 and hit the snow! I'm going to have to inquire further with my buddy from Norway at work...I had no idea things were wound that tight there...except he did tell me everyone has a stint in the military, which I don't think is a bad idea....

I've also heard Denmark is about to fall to the terrorists...they almost have a majority in their political system, and when they get there, we can start placing them on the list right behind Iraq an Iran. Closely followed by Minnesota, from what I'm told!

Thanks for the info, if you ever end up in CA, look me up and I'll get you out to Death Valley for some US-style trail riding!
 
Yeah, I guess I'll quit complaining about closing trails and too much government regulation! You can't even drive on your own land, that's a real bitch...In reality, most of us do stick to the established routes here, but there are a lot of them, especially in the west, where mining demanded some sort of access to almost every area of every mountain range and canyon. What you call an established route is kind of open to the imagination, especially on private property. Our national and state parks are the most restrictive of all as far as off road driving, with it being prohibited except on maintained dirt or gravel roads in most cases. Going off the route in California will net you a $300 citation from the Bureau of Land Management as of about 10 years ago. Probably more like $500 now. Don't ask how I know. Obviously, I learned my lesson.

Green light on the snow-covered ground, though...so get some mud terrains on that K-5 and hit the snow! I'm going to have to inquire further with my buddy from Norway at work...I had no idea things were wound that tight there...except he did tell me everyone has a stint in the military, which I don't think is a bad idea....

I've also heard Denmark is about to fall to the terrorists...they almost have a majority in their political system, and when they get there, we can start placing them on the list right behind Iraq an Iran. Closely followed by Minnesota, from what I'm told!

Thanks for the info, if you ever end up in CA, look me up and I'll get you out to Death Valley for some US-style trail riding!


Thanks for offer/invite. I will be sure to let you know if I get over that way!

As for the mess over here. Yes it's messy and no end in sight. Generally speaking gun ownership is forbidden. We have no "right to bear arms" so if you want to have a weapon. You have to join a gun club. Practice with their weapons in a controlled and supervised manner by members of that club. Then you have to qualify with the weapon after meet time requirements as a member at the club. Then receive permission from the clubs president to own your own 22 caliber pistol. Then you fill out paperwork for the police and submit it to the police along with the club president's approval and payments. Then the police will consider letting you purchase a pistol in the same class as you qualified. Which is always 22 caliber. You must always own and qualify and attend competitions to be eligible to purchase a higher caliber pistol. It's a headache. You have to attend competitions and stay qualified or your weapons permit is revoked in the same order it was given to you and you have to immediately surrender all weapons to the police and receive no compensation.

So a lot of time. A lot. Paperwork. Money. Competitions. Qualifications. Big expensive weapons safe. Random unannounced inspections by police. All to own a 22 caliber
And maybe in the future a higher caliber pistol.

It's enough for me to move back home. I'm from Michigan but lived all over.

As for terrorists and terrorism, we have sleeper cells everywhere. I can go on for days
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