hi-steer hydro assist ram mount

[skyhigh4by]

So I want to add assist to my setup but I'm finding it pretty difficult to find a mounting style I like. Ive done all the research on ram size, lines, pump/box mods, ect.. and Im all good on that end. My truck is a DD so on road manners are pretty important. My question is because I have high steer is there any reason that I can't mount the ram off the axle housing straight to the factory TRE mounting arm instead of attaching it to my high steer?

I also read somewhere that if using high steer you should use a 6" ram instead of 8" but I don't understand why and couldn't find any information to back this up....?

I found this pic and a couple guys saying thats the way they did it but nothing to indicate how the road manners are with this style. Would the mechanical and hydro steering fight each other because they aren't tied together??

 

[MTBLAZER89]

I don't see why you couldn't mount it like that, but is prolly less popular. Why mount your steering up high if you are gonna run your ram down low. DIY4X just came out with a bolt on high steer ram mount. Check out the website or give him a call.

Otherwise I don't see a reason the ram wouldn't work the same in that position. It's still all connected.

I don't think I'd run my hose through the shackle though...

 

[skyhigh4by]

I don't see why you couldn't mount it like that, but is prolly less popular. Why mount your steering up high if you are gonna run your ram down low. DIY4X just came out with a bolt on high steer ram mount. Check out the website or give him a call.

Otherwise I don't see a reason the ram wouldn't work the same in that position. It's still all connected.

I don't think I'd run my hose through the shackle though...

My steering/axle came as a complete package. I do realize that mounting it down there kinda defeats the purpose of high steer but I think the chances of me tagging a rock hard enough to really hurt it are pretty slim. I would build some sort of guard to go around it. That particular hose routing leaves something to be desired for sure.

 

[MTBLAZER89]

I run mine right there, but I have standard "low" steer so it's connected to the tie rod which protects the ram some, but I have scraped it here and there. It works fine, but yeah a little skid would help.

 

[sweetk30]

my self I would not mount it like that . your putting all the assist power on 1 knuckle .

if you do it on the tie rod it is applied to both knuckles .

and here is something for you .

axle mount http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&path=17&product_id=216

clamp http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&path=17&product_id=204

 

[cybrfire]

I agree with the comments already posted. That's gona put a lot of pressure all on one knuckle. Cylinder is pressing the knuckle and the knuckle is in effect dragging the other knuckle along for the ride. So, that one knuckle is getting pushed in the middle and pulled against at the top. It would work but I see the knuckle potentially breaking.

Attached to the tie rod is a better way to go.

I had considered this method but the better way would be to use 2 much smaller cylinders with the 1 port on each cylinder tied together hydraulically. Downside is, the smaller cylinders can't take as much abuse from trail debris, more hose would be required.

Only advantage is a balanced system.

 

[Fred_M1010]

I also read somewhere that if using high steer you should use a 6" ram instead of 8" but I don't understand why and couldn't find any information to back this up....?

With high steer you mount your tie-rod to a much shorter arm, and that gives you a shorter stroke from lock to lock.

 

[Fred_M1010]

And if you don't feel the need for high steer, which I guess you don't since you're thinking of putting the ram down there.
You could just move the tie-rod down to the stock location and attach the ram to it.
It needs to be slightly longer, but you can probably adjust that.