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hydraulic steering on a dana 60

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is there a proper method of attachment and placement for a hydraulic ram on a dana 60?

do and donts maybe?
 
Here is some Advice...

Do's....
-Do your home work. Matched parts work , just some random parts you collect will piss you off in the long run.
-Call the Mfgs of steering setup. They know thier parts , and what they are capable of.
-Realize what works may not be as cheap as you anticipate.
-Try to buy new or rebuilt. Warranty is worth its weight in gold.
- Do read the hydro steer bible on pirate.
- Read .... Read..... Read.... And read more.
- No matter what you can't put to much thought into it.

Do Not...

-Use random parts you have no idea where they came from or if they work.
- Attempt if you really are uncomfortable with it.
- Be afraid to drop some coin.
- Be afraid to ask for help.

Also I can give you a suppliers name . For a Valve that is rebuilt with a warranty :)
 
I have most parts for full hydro steering (ie: the ram, hydraulic lines, and hydraulic steering valve)..


I just want to do it right the first time..

My friend does welding for a living, i am concerned that he will weld or install something (ie: like a mount to the axle) and it wont be right or he'll under/over build it..

he is kinda like that guy who thinks no one else can weld better if you know what i mean..

and the other problem is hes my friend but he will do it next to nothing and after 3 years of waiting he finally has time


btw,,,, Im also concerned about the factory power steerings capabilities to run the ram (i some how get the feeling its underpowered and there isnt enough capacity in the resevior for the ram) iss this a possible issue
 
make sure the ram is high enough to clear your springs but low enough you dont put a hole in the oil pan. Also make sure you can still get the diff cover off without having to take your ram off.
 
The ram is a 2 1/2" x 8" with a 1 3/8" shaft

the steering valve is a Danfoss steering unit... OSP# C 160 LS.....No# 150-1229

got the steering unit off of ebay

i have plenty of clearance with 16" of lift from leaf springs under the oil pan....

that is not an issue.. I was hoping to use the factory power steering pump and resevior with this setup
 
Link to the auction of the ram. Do you know how many Cu in it puts out? Do you know if it is open center or closed center? Do you know if it is load sensing or not? How about load Reactive? How about how many ports does it have? If you can't answer these questions with 100% truth than i doubt you will be able to make the system work as well as you think. Let me know the answers to those questions as well. Because a steering system MUST be matched to all the parts to work well.
 
Low steering torque: from 0.5 Nm to 1.8 Nm (4.4 lbf-in to 15.9 lbf-in) in normal steering situations
Low noise level

Built in valve functions: relief valves, check valves, non-return valves for the pressure line or the load sense line

The OSPL steering unit is particularly suitable for where the steering flow can reach 100 l/min (26 gpm).


http://www.sauer-danfoss.com/Products/products_steering.html

(ALL I HAD TIME TO GET)
 
That Didn't answer any of the questions I asked. All it says is what the book says about that series. Not the exact valve you have.

-Cu In of displacement is what will tell how fast you steer, based on the displacement of the ram as well.

-5 Port valve will generally be load sensing. In other words the port has an aux outlet for another hydraulic item. Such as a disc , or some other hydraulic implement. Load sensing means if you used that aux item , and then attempt to steer it prioritizes the steering.

- Load reaction is what will give you the return to center feel. If your alignment , and caster is set up correctly.
 
Midwestern4x4Parts said:
-5 Port valve will generally be load sensing. In other words the port has an aux outlet for another hydraulic item. Such as a disc , or some other hydraulic implement. Load sensing means if you used that aux item , and then attempt to steer it prioritizes the steering.

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I think your wrong on that part. Fith port could be just power beyond port. If your using rear steer thats the valve you want, or you have to plumb the rear first off of the pump (giving it priority) to a bidirectional valve (most use a log splitter valve) and use its power beyond port to supply the fronts steering valve (orbital valve)
 
RIPPEDK5 said:
The ram is a 2 1/2" x 8" with a 1 3/8" shaft

the steering valve is a Danfoss steering unit... OSP# C 160 LS.....No# 150-1229

got the steering unit off of ebay

i have plenty of clearance with 16" of lift from leaf springs under the oil pan....

that is not an issue.. I was hoping to use the factory power steering pump and resevior with this setup
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You need to read the hyd steering article on pirate. With that ram your prolly going to want a steering unit rated for around 7.5-8.5 CC's per rev. I'm just guessing though. as for that steering unit you need to find out how many cc's per rev its rated for, how much input flow its rated for ( our pumps only put out 2-3.5GPMS) a steering unit expecting more flow than that isn't going to work. You also want, but dont need a load reacting type steering unit. Without load reacting the steering wont return to center when you let go of the wheel while moving (like a normal car) for a strictly trail rig it wouldn't be a big deal if its not load reacting. I know a bunch of people running non load reacting and say they can't even tell a difference on the trail.
 
mrdrinksalil said:
You need to read the hyd steering article on pirate. With that ram your prolly going to want a steering unit rated for around 7.5-8.5 CC's per rev. I'm just guessing though. as for that steering unit you need to find out how many cc's per rev its rated for, how much input flow its rated for ( our pumps only put out 2-3.5GPMS) a steering unit expecting more flow than that isn't going to work. You also want, but dont need a load reacting type steering unit. Without load reacting the steering wont return to center when you let go of the wheel while moving (like a normal car) for a strictly trail rig it wouldn't be a big deal if its not load reacting. I know a bunch of people running non load reacting and say they can't even tell a difference on the trail.
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It could be power beyond yes. But if it is load sensing it will still prioritize to your main steering feed. Also the displacement is in Cu In Per Rev. Not CC's. As far as load reaction or not by the sound of it it is a single ended ram he has. Which won't support load reaction since it isn't a balanced ram. With a single ended ram it is a certain % faster one direction than the other because the ram isn't balanced. :D
 
Yes, its only a single ended ram (2 1/2 x 8 inch stroke)

The valve is a 4 port-> 1 left port. 1 right port, 1 feed port, and 1 unknown "T" port.. Thats it

the ram isnt bi-directional or double ended, or anything like that
 
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