my buddy who is a welder and forman for a big air conditioning company had 5, 10ft 2x2 1/4 wall tubes left over from a job that he said he was going to throw away if i didnt want it. ofcourse i was all over it. it has only surface rust. im going to use it for the stand to convert my tube bender to hydrolic, and what ever else i can find to make with it. the i was at another bud house a few nights ago, he was complaining about how he cant work on his 46' dodge truck cause he had no room from all the clutter. he handed me a electric chainsaw cause he has a cordless, a brand new coffee maker that they got from last christmas, they bought one a month before christmas so they didnt need it. he also gave me a rock crawler toy for my son. i told him i wouldnt take anything unless he let me give him some money. my bud being the nuckle head he is said "if you dont take this stuff i will just throw it away out of spite". so i said "alright dont cry about it i will take it". oh and two adult dvd movies he bought that he never opened. my boss gave me enuff brand new tumbling media for mt parts tumbler for free too. i dig free stuff.