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Jeep crash video at EJS Moab

I have an account on Pirate, with 0 posts. Lots of good writeups there if you can ignore the shit talkers.

Sucks about her injury.
 
I've kept up on all the threads on this since it happened. The jeep thread sucks balls..34 pages of lets all blame the bystander. Tacoma thread has zero info...Pirate thread is the most informative. They actually found the jeep after it was sold to a yard by the insurance company. The only video so far posted of the actual incident is this one above and it was obtained/posted by a pirate member.
IMHO the driver is a retard and is 100% at fault. In 4HI and prob drive using to much throttle to get over the obstacle to start. I believe he didnt have a seatbelt on and got thrown forward towards the passenger side with his weight on the accelerator, while yanking the steering wheel after the jeep came down off the rock. Then he panicked and did nothing as he drove forward over the woman and into the crack. The lady was seriously as far out of the way as you could be and still be considered watching that obstacle. This is akin to standing at the entrance end of a hot tub and getting hit by a vehicle after it goes out the exit end.
 
This is what kills me about motorsports such as ours, it's inherently dangerous, everyone understands this fact, but the first thing that happens when someone gets injured is to try to place blame, and call out the lawyers.

I'm sure the driver had no intention of injuring her or anyone out there that day, and all the training or lack there of may not have prevented this particular incident from happening. But it did.

And dragging this all into a courtroom is going to do nothing but cause more pressure to get more of our land use locations shut down.
When we go out and play with machinery that climb boulders and put pedestrians in the mix, ALL bets are off.
Period.
End of story.
You are responsible for your own safety.
 
Blazooki said:
I've kept up on all the threads on this since it happened. The jeep thread sucks balls..34 pages of lets all blame the bystander. Tacoma thread has zero info...Pirate thread is the most informative. They actually found the jeep after it was sold to a yard by the insurance company. The only video so far posted of the actual incident is this one above and it was obtained/posted by a pirate member.
IMHO the driver is a retard and is 100% at fault. In 4HI and prob drive using to much throttle to get over the obstacle to start. I believe he didnt have a seatbelt on and got thrown forward towards the passenger side with his weight on the accelerator, while yanking the steering wheel after the jeep came down off the rock. Then he panicked and did nothing as he drove forward over the woman and into the crack. The lady was seriously as far out of the way as you could be and still be considered watching that obstacle. This is akin to standing at the entrance end of a hot tub and getting hit by a vehicle after it goes out the exit end.
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This is spot on IMO
 
wasted wages said:
I'm sure the driver had no intention of injuring her or anyone out there that day, and all the training or lack there of may not have prevented this particular incident from happening. But it did.

When we go out and play with machinery that climb boulders and put pedestrians in the mix, ALL bets are off.
Period.
End of story.
You are responsible for your own safety.
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I'm sorry, but I don't agree. It is possible for someone to act in a reckless enough manner to get you hurt or killed despite you doing everything you can to protect yourself.

Maybe you are right, that no amount of training or preparation could have prevented the accident. I happen to think you are wrong about that too. Unfortunately as much as we all hate it, the only place to decide who is right is a court.
 
One thing I noticed in the pictures of the jeep nose down into the rock crevice is air-bag deployment. I do not think that air-bags and wheeling mix. It is too easy to barely bounce or slam into something, and have the air-bags go off.

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Which also means he had his seat belt on. Maybe the air bag ko'd him before he lost control and ran over the lady
 
Air bags won't deploy under 5mph. So wheeling is usually no big deal. It's a pretty good guess that it went off when the bumper hit the far side of the crack as it nosed in.
 
Yeah I was just making excuses for him. I always figured it went off in the ditch.
 
I am surprised that insurance totaled the Jeep. Rubicons are big money. Must be the damage plus the airbags going off. Someone will surely buy the wreck and have it wheeling again.
 
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