Most of you have probably read the thread by now, and if you haven't, then that's okay; I really don't feel like rehashing the whole thing. But there is one thing that was said in the thread that I feel should be brought up as it pertains to the site and the sport of off-roading in general. In the two years I've been here, the one thing that has been a constant is that everyone is welcomed here. We have people from all walks of life (yes chevyfumes, you count /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif) from all over the country and even some people from foreign countries. These people are come here looking for something and we all know what that is. Now what I want to go into is this, what are the main goal(s) around here? I'm sure there will be several different answers. Think about that for a minute though. Why are you here? I know why I am here. I have a dream, a shot in the dark for the most part, and some of you may know what that dream is if you've followed me in the tech forums for any amount of time. A lot of us have a goal for our vehicle and we know what we want out of our vehicles and thus, we have converged here to study, to dream and to brag. We share our knowledge amongst each other and most of us are strangers to most everyone else. We shoot ideas off each other and we trade parts. For the most part, we are recreational 4 wheelers are build trucks for the trail. We also have members who own a Blazer just for the versatility it offers and have no plans to hit the Rubicon with it. There are others with 2wd Blazers, Suburbans and what not. That's a pretty good cross section, a little variety if you will. So far there has not been one problem that I have seen with the variety of owners here. Until now. For those that missed it, the summary of what was said is that if someone would like to talk about a different facet of the sport of off-road, then go do it at another site. It's not important to say who suggested this, it's public record; but one, as a member of this site and two, as one who supports the off-road arena anyway I possibly can, I find this suggestion an embarassment. The suggestion is an embarassment cause it shows that the writer of the statement is prejudiced against other forms of off-road involvement. Last time I checked, we didn't have a required off-road activity we participated in order to join here. Since I am not Steve Fox or talk to him, I do not know how he feels about the variety of off-road interests that are here. If I was an outside Internet surfer participating in let's say mud running, and I came in here looking for information and read that mud runners were the spawn of Satan and were not hardcore, I would say 95% of the time, I would go somewhere else to find information. It took me about two years of knowing about this site before I finally signed up and believe it or not, my first post was a tech question in the Audio Forum. I looked around not figuring to stay around too long since as most of you know, I'm not a big fan of rockcrawling and nasty trails. I'll go watch and if asked, write about it later; but my dream for my truck lays somewhere out in the flatlands. Throughout my time here I've found other members whose interests lay in the same area and some of them have moved on, and some of them are new, but up until yesterday, no one ever said they had a problem with us around here. And if you haven't noticed, there are regular members around here that are content to have a really cool daily drivers. So with all of that laid out, should we allow blatant and outright prejudice against a fellow member just because their views and dreams are not the same? Furthermore, actions like that can reflect on the membership as a whole and can drive people away. I've talked to other people who have left other sites for various reasons and it's that same prejudicial attitude that a small, but very vocal minority shows towards a person just because they may have a differing opinion or interest. Yes, most boards are topic specific, with some having a much narrower target audience than others. Yet, on some of these boards one cannot just say "hey, I saw this here, can you tell me why it won't work here?" and the next thing you know, another potential contributer of information/student of the game has been turned off cause the individuals who are put to the task were not abused with the manners stick when they were still in their formative years. Is that what y'all want to happen around here? Do we want to get so focused in on one specific area of our sport that other C/K5, Sub owners who are looking for information on rebuilding a 10 bolt rearend will be chastised just for asking such a question, yet we never knew that the 10 bolt rearend belonged to a truck that never gets wheeled and is driven by some elderly man who doesn't drive over 55mph? Like I said above, I'm not a fan of driving hardcore trails, but the information I have learned is invaluable and helps me so before you make the decision that so and so who participates in an off-road activity that is foreign to you, instead of turning on the /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif switch over to full auto, take a step back and learn something. DISCLAIMER: This is not intended as a flame towards anyone, this is just my opinions and observations.