for the next so cal outting I was thinking a mud trip. I've heard Azusa is pretty dry right now and I'm waiting to hear for sure. But I've been hearing alot of the canyon guys are going up to Little Rock Dam. Thats just up the 14 on the south end of Palmdale. I believe you take Pearblossom HW. Anyways I've never been up there and it's suppose to be fun. some maybe we should take a chance and check that place out. it would just be a day trip. Date-wise I'm thinking after thanksgiving but before christmas. So my vote is Dec 3rd--might be tough if I end up with breakage after the dunes OR Dec 10th--my first choice. what say the rest of ya?