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Need help, my 10 bolt is dunzo

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So I have an 89 Jimmy, had it for about month now and since I have owned it, at certain speeds I noticed a slight wah wah wah wah wah coming from the rear end, and a few weeks ago I was driving like 35mph and heard a pretty loud bang but the truck kept driving just fine and I didn't feel the bang, just heard it, but I wondered what it was, well now I know. I was planning on changing the rear diff fluid today anyway but when I parked my truck for about 7 hrs this morning after a 5 min drive during which I heard no odd noises, when I got back to the truck about 1 today there was a large puddle of oil under the rear axle and a hole in the cover... So I limped it home and it still drove fine except for the wah wah sound, pulled the cover and there are a bunch of teeth chipped off the ring gear. The oil that came out of the axle looked like grey metallic paint. So I'm going to try to get an axle from the junkyard but here is what I need to know.

As you all know the newer trucks list 3 digit codes on the glovebox sticker instead of listing the actual options, so I need to know where I can find these option codes decoded, so I can figure out the axle gear ratio. I am pretty sure it is a 3.42 as that seems to be the most common in these 80s and up trucks. It also has a posi, lsd if that makes a difference in what gearing it might have. Also, if I happen to run across a truck at the junkyard that is missing the option sticker, what is an easy way to tell the gear ratio. I want to be able to use my 4x4.

Last thing, am I thinking right to just replace the whole axle, I think this will be the cheapest route, junkyard axles are 90 bucks. But how hard is it and how expensive to replace the ring and pinion, or would other things need replacing as well? I have never messed with axles before so I am thinking I'll just get a junkyard unit.
 
spin the axle shaft by hand and count the driveshaft rotations. Some chaulk or tape makes it easier to see and count.

It always good to pull the cover and see what your getting though.
 
Pull the cover. The ratio is on the ring gear. Also, I have opened a bunch of covers in yards. A bunch of them had any one of, wheel bearing grease, saw dust, banana peals, orange peals and what I assume was blueberry jello in them. Trying to make the sound go away.
 
10-bolt G80 "Gov-Lock" units have a pretty high failure rate (assuming your LSD is stock). Pull the cover and see what the actual ratio. The number of ring and pinion teeth should be stamped into the ring gear. Divide the numbers and you'll know your ratio. 41-10 = 4.10 ratio, 41-11 = 3.73, etc.

If your axle is in good shape you may find it easier to replace the R&P (and perhaps the carrier if needed), as the junkyard axle will be in unknown condition. If two axles are in equal condition, I would probably opt to swap them out. But I think it's a coin flip. For slightly extra work you could completely rebuild your current axle with new gears, bearings, and seals.

P.S. - I'm selling/parting out a 3.73:1 rear 10-bolt right now if you wind up needing that gear combination or a known good open carrier.
 
I went to 2 junkyards today with no luck, now I am cruising craigslist. There's a guy selling a 1990 10 bolt 4x4 with 3.42 gears like I need. It is from a pickup though. Is this axle any different than mine? Would it work?
 
I went to 2 junkyards today with no luck, now I am cruising craigslist. There's a guy selling a 1990 10 bolt 4x4 with 3.42 gears like I need. It is from a pickup though. Is this axle any different than mine? Would it work?

The spring and shock perches will be different, as the GMT-400 trucks had wider frame spacing. The brakes/wheel hub *might* be different, I'm not sure when that changed. But it definitely isn't a bolt-in part. Do you have access to a welder?
 
On second thought, if you're just dealing with a broken carrier/gear set, it is probably easier to rebuild the unit that you have. Did you get a definitive answer as to the gear set? Assuming 3.42 just because it was common is a pretty unreliable idea.
 
Yes, I have a welder, and yes I have confirmed the gear ratio is 3.42. @campfire and the only reason I thought it would be easier to swap the whole axle is because I have no experience with axles. How hard is it to install a gearset? Also because I can get a whole axle for the price of a ring and pinion. And @dangerdog yes the cover is off and there are a bunch of chipped teeth and I can reach in and move the carrier around. Not sure what went wrong though, like is said I have no experience with axles. I do know that this one had 223k on it if that matters.
 
Yes, I have a welder, and yes I have confirmed the gear ratio is 3.42. @campfire and the only reason I thought it would be easier to swap the whole axle is because I have no experience with axles. How hard is it to install a gearset? Also because I can get a whole axle for the price of a ring and pinion. And @dangerdog yes the cover is off and there are a bunch of chipped teeth and I can reach in and move the carrier around. Not sure what went wrong though, like is said I have no experience with axles. I do know that this one had 223k on it if that matters.

If you're comfortable with welding, maybe moving perches is an easier way to go. :dunno: If you put the time/money into rebuilding it you will have a guaranteed good axle, anything you pull used out of the junkyard is a gamble. Your call, there isn't necessarily a wrong answer here.

If the carrier is moving than the carrier itself has failed in some way.
 
With that many miles it is likely the bearings gave up . If it was me I would rebuild. Then you know what you have got, unlike a junkyard pick.
 
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