I have some ideas rattling around in my head. I need to see how the gates fit up to the body on the inside. Do they seal up like the power gate? I think they do meet up w/ the seals from the exploded pics I have seen in LMC. This is for my rig so I can lose the heavy gate and not have the power gate when the top is off. But still be able to put a removeable glass (lexan) in the top for when the top is on. Does that make any sense? /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif I am also tossing around some ideas on 1/2 doors and total cut outs. (Basicly a filler for the jamb area on the cut outs.) The full cut outs would be for daily driver rigs that want to go doorless but dont want to look at the ugly jamb area (like me) and would have a small step over to keep items from falling out on the road or trail. If I can make up some good 1/2 doors and fillers I may start to produce them out of fiber glass, if there would be a demand for them. I should be getting my hands on some old doors soon and will make the 1/2 doors and make a mold, then cut them out totally and make a mold of that. What does everyone think?