Today I went to the local stereo shop and bought myself some brand new pair of 10's, b/c my hold ones some how got a hole in them. These i bought are Kove KVR series 10. I am very happy with them, they play so much lounder than my MTX 4000 10s i did have before i had a hole in the lol, but anyways i picked the Koves up for just $80 bucks a peice. I feel that i got my moneys worth and i saved a lot of money to considering i was about to order some MTX 6000 from crutchfield for 120 a peice plus shipping!!