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Not so daily driver, she won't start

My85

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Hello all,

My 85 K5 has developed a nasty habit of not always starting. She has always been extremely reliable. Regardless of altitude, weather conditions or temperature she always fired up immediately. Now I can’t use her as my daily driver much less for road trips. Sorry for the length but I think it will help with the diagnosis.

Mechanicals:

350 w/700R4, computer controlled carburetor with all of the CA smog.

Symptoms:

If she doesn’t fire on the first attempt one of the following happens.
1. Tries to run while sounding like she is firing on 4 or 5 cylinders then either
a. Idle eventually smoothes out and she runs fine or
b. Sputters and dies. (If this happens see 2 below)

2. Engine turns over fine, seems like she is trying to catch occasionally or just as I release the key.

I have spark (I pulled plug wires and arced to the headers) and fuel is entering the carburetor throat.

Background:

This issue started 2 years ago after driving through an extremely heavy rain storm (which was never a problem before) to the airport. She sat for two days in the parking structure and when I returned she tried but wouldn’t start. During the attempts I heard what sounded like arcing around the starter area. When my wife arrived to pick me up I had her try to start the Blazer while I looked for the source of the arcing sound without success. She sat in the parking structure for a week until I could return and she fired right up (the arcing sound remained). I figured that something just needed to dry out and since there were no additional failures to start, I forgot about it.

Last winter her new trick was occasionally not starting in the morning if it was cold, foggy or raining. However, she would immediately start later in the day or that night even if the conditions were exactly the same. This winter she has become progressively less willing to start even during our 70 degree days.

Attempted repairs:

I changed out the starter last year (arcing sound remained though it has not been noticeable for several months). Replaced the cap, rotor, plug wires, plugs, ignition module, and fuel filters (both inline and at the carburetor). I have checked for vacuum leaks and now I am out of ideas. :dunno:

I reviewed the "won't start" posts without success. Hopefully I have provided enough information in my mini novel that someone will be able to figure out the problem.

Thanks
 
My initail feeling is that the carb is flooding. Hard to say for sure from the other side of the country. But that is my guess.

You replaced the starter. Did you check, inspect or even consider the fusible links? It's cheap to try and worth a shot. Maybe one is failing but not completely failed and not sending full power to the ignition during cranking. Kind of a stretch but I've seen stranger things happen.
 
496truck,

Thank you for your reply. Sorry for the delay in responding. I hate when work gets in the way of my being on the forums. :whistle:

I had not even considered the fusible links. It might be, as you said a stretch, but it is definitely something to look at.

To clarify what I meant when I said I can see fuel entering the carburetor. I should have completed my sentence by adding when I move the linkage. Sorry about the omission. I am not sure if that would change your initial thoughts about flooding being the issue. I don’t smell a strong fuel odor unless/until I make several consecutive attempts to start the Blazer.

When I changed the plugs there were not any signs of fouling. With that thought in mind, the next time she doesn’t start I will pull a plug or two and see if they are wet.

Thank you again, I appreciate the assistance.
Don
 
Does the engine turn over 100% when cranking or is it slow or sound labored? Do you pump the gas at all when starting it?

Check you battery terminal connections and grounds as well.
 
Chevy305,

Thank you for your response.

Engine turns over 100%. I usually give the gas pedal a tap prior to cranking to set the choke and so I know there is gas in the carb. I have also tried to start her without touching the gas pedal.

I normally don't pump the pedal during starting. However, I have tried that on a couple of occasions and only flooded her.

The battery terminal connections are tight and the grounds seem fine though it won't hurt to double check.
 
Have you tried to put the pedal to the floor when cranking? That opens the throttle bores and clears flooding if that occures.
 
Chevy305,

Thank you for your response.

Engine turns over 100%. I usually give the gas pedal a tap prior to cranking to set the choke and so I know there is gas in the carb. I have also tried to start her without touching the gas pedal.

I normally don't pump the pedal during starting. However, I have tried that on a couple of occasions and only flooded her.

The battery terminal connections are tight and the grounds seem fine though it won't hurt to double check.
I have glanced at this thread before but didn't notice at first that is was a K5 not a HD 3/4 ton like my truck so I remembered my 86 olds.
It ran perfect until the ESC started acting up, I fiddled with that car for a month then just got rid of it.
The CCC and ESC is the most retarded thing they ever came up with.
I could have a solution for you if you want it, I will PM you.
 
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