firefighter184 and I are planning a trail run on Sunday, June 12. Old Chinaman's Gulch (OCG) John has to be back in Denver by 5 PM so we are planning an early start. Hope to hit the trail by 8 AM. I'm staying in Buena Vista with my parents, but John will be camping near the trail Saturday night. I wanted to give everyone enough time for planning if they wanted to campout also. And guys like B_to_C who work weekends need to request the time off. I've been reading trip reports over at CO4x4 and this looks like a kickass trail.