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Ordered up a front lockright!! (update, DONE, PICS!)

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Looks goood, make sure you get some action shots here /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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yeah it is simpler
but they do not locate the caliper as well
they also do not look like they will survive the heat near as well as the Bendix style
I bet the rubber bits around the caliper guide pins will melt out

the only advantage I see is the price
I used a chev style on the rear, grudgingly.
I will one day change them out for a nice setup
 
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The driver's side axle shaft MUST be pulled to install this. even with them all the way outboard, I could not get it together.


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Why exactly did it not work with the axleshafts in? I had no trouble at all with them in but there was VERY little clearence between the shafts and the coupler. Maybe I held my mouth just right when I installed it and got lucky.
 
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I can destroy my snap on tools as easily as i can my craftsman or husky stuff, and they all have lifetime warranties. time to work smarter, not harder.. to quote snap-on, this is not a prybar, chisel, or punch. simple fact is that most standard hand tools are not severe duty and breakage is normal & to be expected..
 
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It just couldn't be done. I am not going to cry BS on your install, but it absoulutely could not be done on my axle. In fact, from the looks of my webshots, my girlfriend snapped a pic of me using a prybar to hold the axleshaft outboard all the way to try to get it in without taking it apart.

I couldn't have even got that last center section in if I'd beat it with a sledge hammer. There just wasn't enough space without pulling the axleshaft out slightly.

Sorry, no action shots this weekend. I got stuck lincoln locking my friend's Jeep (14 FF Gov bomb now lincoln locked) so I didn't get time to take my truck out and 'wheel it although I was aching to.

Hopefully Wednesday I get to take it out for some mid-week wheelin.

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Tyler,

Did you leave the thrust washers in your axle, or did you take them out? I imagine without them there might be more space (probably still not enough on mine).
 
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I re-used the thrust washers per the instructions. By the way, that is some scary ghetto fab on your buddy's Jeep.
 
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By the way, that is some scary ghetto fab on your buddy's Jeep.

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That's why I took the pictures! If it didn't have full hydro steering I'd have sent the pics to scary steering! /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif
 
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When you're using a flat bladed screwdriver to remove screws... and the two corners of the screwdriver break off and hit you in the face... they're not very good screwdrivers. The head should've rounded off first.

I've never broken a screwdriver using them for a chisel, punch, drift, or prybar. If I used them for that, I wouldn't have any Craftsman screwdrivers left. I've got bent and broken chisels, puches, and drifts instead. It's once I break screwdrivers or wear them out that I abuse them like that.

I have a set of K-mart screwdrivers that I swear by.

but I digress.
 
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ugh. im not trying to argue with you but either you have arms like mike tyson to be bustin screwdrivers like that, or it was faulty... junk is junk /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif maybe that screwdriver somehow slipped past quality control.. either way.
 
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By the way, that is some scary ghetto fab on your buddy's Jeep.

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That's why I took the pictures! If it didn't have full hydro steering I'd have sent the pics to scary steering! /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

[/ QUOTE ] If the pictures were a little better I would say send it, DEFINETALLY submit that hydraulic steering, it may be full hydro, blah blah blah but its scary man. Why were you welding his rear? There is obviouslly a lot of welding work in that rig.
 
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I didn't actually weld it. I just took it apart because neither him nor his brother knew how to weld it. I did the disassembly/reassembly and his brother did the welding. His brother is a good welder so that's the last thing that is going to break.

As to the steering, the ram is so big and slow that he's pulling that crap off anyway. I'm going to help him mount a 2" ram to the axle correctly the next time so he doesn't rip that frame apart.
 
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I have to agree with him on the problems with the Craftsman screwdrivers. I've had two flat tips break off the tips recently and I only use my screwdrivers for their intended purposes. The part numbers were 41586 (5/16) & 41589 (1/8). I have their largest tool set from back in 1978 and but the tools that broke are a lot newer. The quality of the newer tools isn't close to the quality of the older tools. I've had the chrome peel off some of their larger 1/2" drive sockets in one complete sheet too. I never had any problem exchanging the tools but would feel better about having tools that will stand up to the intended task.
 
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I would never put one of these in the front of my rig. Four one it wont hold up to bigger tires which you will see in time. The thing is going to chatter and not unlock when you go around turns. And just for a couple dollors more you could have gotten a true trac. I hope it works out but from what i have seen it wont and you will end up changeing it down the road anyway.
 
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I would never put one of these in the front of my rig. Four one it wont hold up to bigger tires which you will see in time. The thing is going to chatter and not unlock when you go around turns. And just for a couple dollors more you could have gotten a true trac. I hope it works out but from what i have seen it wont and you will end up changeing it down the road anyway.

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1. Look at these small 38.5x16" Swampers I've got. Oh, damn, someone better pull my lockright and give it to someone else that has SMALLER tires on 1 ton axles because it's about to self destruct!!! They're only 95 lbs each (probably over 120 with the rims).

2. Oh really? It's not going to unlock around turns? GOOD! If I wanted it to unlock I'd put my truck in 2wd! That's why I bought a locker, so that when I have my foot in it, it will stay locked!

3. A true trac? Are you really serious? You think I'd change the carrier in my front axle for a limited slip unit? Did you see the post that was already made about them this week? They're completely worthless when you lift a tire or have a tire jammed up against something.

I usually wouldn't trash on someone so hard for making a comment like that, but read around a little bit more here. You say you work at an off road shop in your profile. Do you really tell their customers not to put lockers in their front axles?

PM Dan, AKA, Krazie 87 K5. He has the same lockright in his '60 and 42" tires. He twisted the end right off a 30 spline stub shaft last year and his front lock right didn't even hickup.

Yes, people have broken them, but I've got a friend that broke a front Detroit locker, too.

I personally would have rather had a Detroit, but I didn't want to dedicate that much time to the install when this was an option. If this breaks, the only option IMO will be the Detroit.

True tracs belong in mall queens. This is an off road truck, and I'd never even consider something like a limited slip unit. They're all but worthless off road, now that I have a front locker I realize that I'd rather have a welded diff up front than an open or limited slip.

Don't knock it 'til you try it, really. The first time I hit a slippery surface and opened up the throttle about 1/2 way and felt all four of my 38.5s grip I couldn't believe it.

There is no way to describe the feeling, but any CK5 member that wants to experience a 100% locked up rig (and doesn't have their own) is welcome to come try my truck any time.

I LOVE IT!!!!!!
 
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wheres the test pics tim! /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

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They're in my member galary. Their would be more but the only pics I got that day were my steering box all messed up because I ripped it off the frame.

Trust me there will be more, I'm going to badlands in two weeks!
 
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wheres the test pics tim! /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

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They're in my member galary. Their would be more but the only pics I got that day were my steering box all messed up because I ripped it off the frame.

Trust me there will be more, I'm going to badlands in two weeks!

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Oh woops /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif

Good luck on fixing the frame and steering box. Can't wait for the pics in 2 weeks /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif
 
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Good luck on fixing the frame and steering box. Can't wait for the pics in 2 weeks /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif

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If a wedding wasn't going on, I'd be wheelin' right now.

Off to wrench on it right now actually. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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My Dad would call this "asserting your ineptitude".

Mine unlocks as long as I don't have the throttle on. So, it doesn't unlock very often.

Twice in the last month I've abused the crap out of my LockRights in my 10 bolts. I'm talking six grand shifts in low range.

Yesterday I was trying to get up a wet sand hill climb. I had to run it in first gear because the jerk of it shifting into second while going up the hill would shut off the fuel into the float bowl and the truck would bog. Five to six grand all the way up the hill bouncing and bucking with the LockRight racheting like mad because the front tires kept leaving the ground. Granted, I only have 33s but I was beating the [darn] out of it.

Poor Man's Fuel-Injection (Quadrajet) needs to go. I need to get real fool-injection. I'm certain I could've made it if I didn't keep running out of gas.


A limited-slip in a wheeling rig is about as useful as a screen door in a submarine as far as I'm concerned. You need at least 600lbs of preload to even be worth having it... and 800lbs would be ideal but it'd be almost like having a spool when you try to turn. And one tire would still spin if you've got a tire up against a rock. A limited-slip would be nice in the front of a daily-driver but I wouldn't trade my LockRight for one as long as I'm going to be wheeling my daily driver.
 
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Good luck on fixing the frame and steering box. Can't wait for the pics in 2 weeks /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif

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If a wedding wasn't going on, I'd be wheelin' right now.

Off to wrench on it right now actually. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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Awesome /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/truck.gif /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
 
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