My father in law got us one for christmas... I don't get the American obsession with video games... After 20 minutes of staring like a zombie at the tv, my eyes are shot, my back and neck are in pain, and I'm depressed, feeling like life is colorless (especially when I have that music running through my head and I feel like I'll have sudden freaky angled views as I walk down the hallway)... I'm ready to give this thing back... Don't get me wrong, I'm not unappreciative, but life was fine without one! There are a million other things I could do with the time and feel better about afterwards... /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif So what again was the name of that 4x4 game? BTW, merry christmas yall!