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Press fit bearing or no?

GsxrMike

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I had to change a busted ujoint tonight and when I took the hub off the back bearing stayed on the spindle and I couldn't get it off. The bearing came apart when I was prying on it and then I had to get the "race" super hot and pound it off with a hammer and chizle. It finally cracked and thats the only reason it came off. Any ideas of why it was on there so tight? I didn't think it was a press fit because it normally comes off with the hub.

The red arrow points where the bearing sits.
spindle.jpg
 
Not the easiest to see in the pic, but it does look like the spindle is scored at least a little. The inner bearing race prolly got hung on a burr, or groove.

You might be able to clean it up with some emery cloth if it's not too severe...

Rene
 
Can't tell from the pics... is the spindle galled up at all?
Were you going side to side when you were hitting it? If your only hitting one side it will bind up.

I'm not sure about the press fit, but now that I think about it the hub should hold the bearing on so no, it shouldn't be press fit.

Don't know for sure.
 
It is not supposed to be a press fit. When a bearing goes bad and spins on the spindle it can "weld" itself to the spindle and then you have to cut the bearing off. In most cases you end up needing a new spindle. Also when the bearing stayed in place the seal should have been trapped behind it as well. If there was no seal trapped behind the bearing then you need to make sure it is in the wheel hub otherwise someone forgot to install the seal and that allows water and dirt to enter the hub and bearings and could cause a bearing to seize on the spindle.
 
Yeah seal was there. Bearing looked fine and spun fine but it was definatly "welded" to the spindle. I got it off and I think I can clean up the spindle where it was but I was just confused as hell as to why this would happen. Maybe overtighening the nut that holds the hub on? I figured that would make the bearing shoot craps but not this.
 
Oops. One more question. I have a D44 with 8 lug hubs on it so what vehicle should I tell the guy at the parts counter? Mid 80s K20?
 
You need to measure the inner bearing diameter (measure the spindle diameter where the bearing goes) if it is 2" it is 1976 2nd design and later, if it's smaller 1.75" IIRC then it is 1976 and earlier 1st design.
 
Sounds to me like the bearing had frozen and had started spinning on the shaft. Like the others said.
I have had this happen several times since I spend a lot of time in the water. I can usually feel it when it happens if I am on the highway.
It feels like a tar strip or something that causes your truck to suddenly veer to one side just for a second.
That is when the bearing welds to the race. At that point, either the race starts spinning in the hub, which is really bad because it almost always ruins the hub really quick, or the bearing starts spinning on the spindle.

That is not quite as bad at first, because the metal is heavier, and will survive longer than the hub will.
However once you groove the spindle, its toast too.

When it happens, I usually take a grinder and grind whats left of the bearing down to the spindle, carefully, and split it with a chisel.
Or use a Dremal tool to cut a slot through it down to the spindle.

If you are really lucky, when you get to the point where it welded, you will have a small chunk of bearing sticking up on the spindle. You can then grind it down smooth, and everything will be fine. If you are not lucky, then part of the spindle will come off with the bearing.

Either way, whatever you do, DO NOT try to replace that hub until you have dressed up the sealing surface edge. I see lots of burrs and rough places on the edge just past your arrow. If you try to slide a new seal over that, it will be cut to ribbons.
I like a nice smooth edge with a tiny chamfer to help the seal slide on.

J.
 
Where does the piece on the left go? It came out when I was putting the two splined parts of the lockout in.
hubthing.jpg


Sorry about the crappy picture.
 
Someone? Anyone? I gotta go back down and finish this thing because it is suppose to start raining in 3 hours and not stop until late tomorrow.
 
I hate to rag on the picture, but I really can't tell what the heck it is. When you clean it up is it smooth, or is it real jagged?
It sorta looks like a piece of the old bearing. If so you could just throw it away. If its a round spring hooked end to end to make a circle, its a part of the old seal. Also tossable.
Maybe someone else who is more familiar with that model hub can tell.
 
It looked to me like it came from between the two splined pieces of the hub. I didn't have time to wait so I tossed it and put the hub back on with rain drops starting to hit me and lighting over the horizon. Thanks anyways!
 
It looked to me like it came from between the two splined pieces of the hub. I didn't have time to wait so I tossed it and put the hub back on with rain drops starting to hit me and lighting over the horizon. Thanks anyways!

You'll find out whether or not you needed it once you hit the road again :haha:
 
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