I've got hammer Down 1 and 2 and tho they're great to watch I really want to see some real world wheelin like the majority of us would do. Are there such DVDs? Stuff like Rubicon and the likes. people like you and me hitting the trail in full size rigs, jeeps etc rather than mega buck rock buggies going over timed sections. Any suggestions? Even some of the short vid clips posted up in the 'garage' of people out having 'fun' does more for me than a rock crawlin comp. Thanks.