I wrote an article for my website about how to do a shackle flip. I see a lot of questions about it asked here and while it won't answer all of them it may help. I'm always told "write about what you know" so I wrote about the shackle flip I did which was a homemade flip using a different style stock hanger. It doesn't cover the echobit or ord flip kits. If you want feel free to head over and check it out. Lemme know what ya think. Constructive criticism is always welcome. You can find the article at www.the-graveyard.net under the 4x4 button.