Speaking about police behavior

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by garlicbreath, May 6, 2007.

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Should this thread be called "A Day in the Life of a Copper"?

  1. Yes, they have already taken over

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  2. Hell no, they just need another donut!

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  3. I'm neked and don't remember what a copper is!!

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  4. Who cares, they will just arrest you for being neked

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  1. garlicbreath

    garlicbreath 1/2 ton status

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    We have a case here in Rochester NY that has a BUNCH of motorcyclists up in arms this week.
    A few weeks ago, a 19 year veteran of the sheriffs department had a few too many, and pulled out in front of a biker.
    Legal limit here is .08BAC
    He was at .24BAC

    The biker was DOA.

    The court aquited the sheriff of manslaughter and gave him a DUI.

    Why?

    Because a witness said the biker was speeding, and the sheriff said there was a mailbox in his way.

    19 years on the force.

    update 5-7-2007
    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070506/NEWS01/705060310
     
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    0.24? omg... hang that sum-bitch by his balls.

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  3. tRustyK5

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    Unreal!!! :mad: :mad:

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    one has to ask the question... what if the roles were reversed and a drunk guy killed a cop? the guy would probably be burned at the stake or something. The founding fathers would NOT be pleased.

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  5. tRustyK5

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    Where is Stan telling us all that we need to have both sides of the story and that there is always more to it than we may be told? :p:

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    The cops story? That crazy mofo'n mailbox came outta nowhere so the obvious choice was this dude on the bike needed to move.

    I would like to see this guy get a murder charge. Something like that actually happened here in Winnipeg and the cop got vehicular homicide. Me thinks he isn't the most liked in Stoney.
     
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    I'm waiting for it also. So long as the evidence includes "0.24" and "cop behind the wheel"... I don't think it matters what evidence comes to light though. I mean I don't care if he was going to save a bus load of nuns from a terrorist bombing.... the guy was drunk as a skunk and killed somebody while driving. "get a rope".

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    I agree...

    I hope the vic's family has better luck civilly.

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    Just from reading the article, one would really want to know why the defendant in this case decided to have a non-jury trial...................:confused: :confused: :confused:
     
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    Not to mention this should not reflect on the thousands of honest cops that go out on a day to day basis and do the right thing over and over.
     
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    Although it should not reflect on the honest cops, it does... The honest cops should stand up, and be up in arms about a case like this. Afterall, his and the courts actions make every cop look bad...This is just my opinion, but its how the average person sees it and says "one more reason to hate em' "
     
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    if the world would just listen!
     
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    That's pretty wrong. The AMA is going to go nuts over this.
    Typically, drivers that kill motorcyclists get charged with traffic infractions, while motorcyclists that kill car drivers get some kind of criminal charges. The AMA has bee chronicling that and lobbying for stiffer/equal laws/punishments.

    And at 3x the legal limit, I don't see how anyone can realistically call this a DUI and not a DWI at least.

    It says he's a former sherriff, but not why he's former. My guess is that he doesn't really have the support of the Sherriff's dept, not publicly at least.

    Remind me never to break the law upstate.
     
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    That's easy, juries are unpredictable. If you think you have a legal angle to exploit, take it to the judge. A jury is more likely to be swayed by emotion.

    And cops not coming out saying "This guy did wrong and got away with it" is as offensive as Muslims not decrying the actions of suicide bombers, maybe more so.

    If this had happened today, in Atlanta, on top of the Kathryn Johnston shooting...
     
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    But it's getting to a point that every Tom, Dick and Harry shows up; claiming to be the fourth cousin removed ten times of some schoolyard constable somewhere which entitles them to have at least the same, if not more knowledge than the real cops who try to enlighten folks. Not too mention the assclowns that state as fact loads of crap about the way we operate or our policies, even though the closest they have been to the job is getting a "Junior Deputy" Sticker back when they were 3.

    The facts are pretty simple. Yes, the guy should be going to "pound me in the ass" prison somewhere. He is also "former," which means he is now no longer a part of the brotherhood. Everyone, just like the way this thread is going, is focused on this guy. While people are right to have their focus on him, where's the outrage against the judge who heard the case and issued the verdict???????????????????? The guy went through the process like he should have and in the end, he was acquitted of manslaughter. Right or wrong, who knows? There is no evidence presented in the article referencing the decision and contrary to popular belief, newspaper articles do not tell the whole story.

    As much as we want to go out and hang these SOB's, we also have to keep in mind that the prosecutors play a big part, and in this case, the judge rendered the decision in what would appear to be a fair process. Somehow I don't believe the fair process part, but other than some discussion about a discrepancy between the judge and prosecutor, we have nothing else to go on.
     
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    Yes, but look at the location:wink1:
     
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    Well if it brightens your day any, here in Atlanta the district attorney and his prosecutors bore the brunt of the criticism after they failed to to get convictions after some very high profile cases. Most notably the killing of the county's Sheriff-elect, aledgedly arranged by the outgoing Sheriff.

    But you absolutely correct (at least in my mind) more anger needs to be directed at liberal judges.
     
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    I totaly agre on this. You cant blame the officer directly for getting off light. If I (or anyone for that matter) was in his position they would do the same. The judge seem to be the one to blame. Its just my opinion that officers should not agree to obviously light penalties for their own kind. Not saying they do, but if an overwhelming outcry against these types of actions is made, maybe it would have some impact?
     
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    BRB says it best its not the "former cops" fault its the freaking judge who let him off.

    My wife works with judges all the time and if it were at all possible would go back to school to get a law degree and be a judge someday, mostly because of the inconsistincys of some judges.
     
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    He was a sheriff when this happened.
    He quit 9 days later.

    And I started this thread out of frustration for the judicial system here.
    I wondered too why he chose a bench trial, but now it makes sense.

    Turn this around, place a cop on a bike, and a 24 year old kid with .24BAC in a truck.

    Would that have turned out different?

    The guy screwed up, I know that. But to have blood on his hands and walk away with a DUI is absurd.

    But yeah, as mentioned earlier, the prison system is full of WAY lesser crimes.

    Not that it's a lesser crime, but for example a guy here last month got caught with kiddy porn on his computer.

    Guess what, 7-12 years in prison.

    Justice, thats all I want.
     

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