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Stronger 35-spline lockouts?

85mudblazin said:
The way I see it is if you are going to be driving your truck on the street chances are you arnt wheelin it hard enough to break a hub.

Oh, I think he wheels it hard enough. The sector shaft and frame have been the weak links in the past.
 
Leper said:
Oh, I think he wheels it hard enough. The sector shaft and frame have been the weak links in the past.
Thats cause he has big tires and crossover with no frame protection or hydro assist;)
 
conact poly perf... their flanges are ****in crazy overkill beef. Its hard to imagine them breaking before ANY stub/axle/joint... including the blingin 300m stuff. Hell, the D60 R&P would prolly go first. :grin:

j
 
koldsimer said:
Anybody have any ideas on the heat/cryo treating?

Get it done and let us know how it goes. I'm sure there's other that would go that route if it turned out well.
 
balzackks84 said:
Get it done and let us know how it goes. I'm sure there's other that would go that route if it turned out well.
I'll be looking into it tomorrow.
 
balzackks84 said:
I'm assuming that you guys are running the WARN ones also. How hard of a time does he have keeping that screw/guid plate in a position to screw the cover on without the flange in the hub?

We are both running the factory style flanges. The actual drive gear slides in and is held on by a snapring on the end of the axle shaft and then a large internal ring that goes in a groove on the wheel hub. 78Buford only uses the snapring on the axle end to retain his. The caps are just simply the press-on type....put them on the open end of the hub and a few taps with a hammer seats them. If you wanted to run any type of flanges and remove them occassionally, I think the quickest and simplest solution would be to find some these factory caps and just pop them on when you didn't have the flanges installed.
 
koldsimer said:
That's interesting info 6.2blazer. Thanks for all the good info guys. As far as broaching the stock 30 spline hubs for the 35 spline shafts, i've having trouble seeing how this would be stronger. I thought the overall od of the drive gears in both 30 and 35 spline hubs were the same. Seems like they would be about the same strength. Any more info on how this was done or how much stronger he thought it was?

I wasn't saying that broaching the stock locking hubs to 35-spline made them stronger, just that the stock Spicer hubs broached out to 35-spline seem to be stronger than aftermarket 35-spline hubs. The Spicers appear to have more meat in the drive gear area to begin with, so removing material to make room for the larger 35-spline shafts does not affect them nearly as much as the Warn versions. You hear about people breaking 35-spline Warns on a semi-regular basis, but I doubt you will hear many people say they broke a modified Spicer. Of course some of that may be due to the fact that there are not nearly as many Spicer 35-splines hubs out there. I do know that with the guy running these they were just about the only part he had not replaced or upgraded due to breakage.
 
balzackks84 said:
If you were planning on pulling the flanges stay away from the Polyperformance ones. IIRC they did away with the screw plate in order to make room for the thicker gear. So you cant pull the flange and still be able use the cap.

They did, but that doesn't mean that you couldn't use factory type friciton-fit covers to keep the gunk out... or (gasp) fab up something of your own that uses the Poly caps. I'm pondering something like that. Might use UHMW.

j
 
I'd like to hear from some guys that actually broke a set of warn 35 spline hubs...
I had mine for 2 years without an issue...
I'm running 44's...and beat the hell outta them.
One time I broke 2 stubs...and the l/o hubs were fine.
I had the truck bouncing climbing some big rocks.

I bet those guys that broke'm may not had them fully engaged..
(they're not easy to engage without rocking the rig)
 
Ive broken 2 35 spline hubs, but I run MileMarker. Yeah, Warn are supposed to be better. Both times they have broken has been when my front ARB is engaged and the wheels are turned fairly severely (Ive heard if your locked up front, and crank the wheel in reverse, your even more likely to break a hub. For me, better a hub than a shaft. They do break though...cant speak for the Warns...
 
jekbrown said:
They did, but that doesn't mean that you couldn't use factory type friciton-fit covers to keep the gunk out... or (gasp) fab up something of your own that uses the Poly caps. I'm pondering something like that. Might use UHMW.

j

Sorry.. I like the machined finish and the fit of an o-ring cap. Call me a high roller I guess.
 
balzackks84 said:
Sorry.. I like the machined finish and the fit of an o-ring cap. Call me a high roller I guess.

Bling lover. I'm probably gonna just wrap some duct tape around mine. Seriously though, that's something that's important to me also. I want the cap to seal well and look good too. From what i've heard, the warns seal up real well, can easily be installed without the slug inside and they look good.
 
ok...but the milemarkers aren't good in any spline....
I have a couple buddies that have broke the 30 spline milemarkers.
 
balzackks84 said:
Sorry.. I like the machined finish and the fit of an o-ring cap. Call me a high roller I guess.

like I said... use the cover that poly perf (or whoever) provides and fab up the part that goes INSIDE the hub that allows the cover to stay on and keep water out. If you're worried about bling in a place that can't even be seen from the outside of your rig well... I dunno what to tell ya.

j
 
There are at least a few people on here that have broken 35 spline warn hubs and probably alot more on Pirate. I believe that the owner here Steve Fox has broke a few 35 spline warns.

A good friend of mine runs 35 spline outers with hubs and has had good results. He took 30 spline Spicer hubs and had them broached out to 35 spline. He runs 42's with a doubler, yada yada, and rock crawls his truck quite a bit in some very tough terrain.

Harley
 
well just to jump in and say this anything can break is just depends on rig driver terrain and lack or to much traction will all break anything nothing is unbrakable or unsseceptable to damage
 
well i was planning on stayin 30spline, but when my new warn hubs came, they turned out to be 35's. eventually runnin 40s almost strictly in mud, no crawling, will these hubs hold up?
 
muddybuddy said:
well i was planning on stayin 30spline, but when my new warn hubs came, they turned out to be 35's. eventually runnin 40s almost strictly in mud, no crawling, will these hubs hold up?


I gaurantee them to work and they will last





















































until they break:D .

Ira
 
sandawgk5 said:
I gaurantee them to work and they will last





















































until they break:D .

Ira

well DUH i know they will work:p: , i asked if they will hold up :haha:
 
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